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2018 General Assembly, Saturday Nov. 3, Sunday Nov. 4, and Saturday Nov. 10
=Board Meeting - 17.12.2018 - 21h00 CEST=


==Keynote & Opening of the General Assembly==
==Convened==


* [INSERT TIME] Meeting opened by Guillaume Saouli
'''''Note : as some board members and alternate board members did not register on Congressus before the meeting, they are not appearing on the lists bellow.'''''
: +- 30 People in attendance at the event
: +- 30 People in attendance online


* Chair of the meeting: Vojtech Pikal
* Board :  
*Cochairs: Guillaume Saouli, Bailey Lamon
* Secretaries of the meeting: Rico Brouwer, Keith Goldstein
*  Secretary for Online Delegates: Raymond Johansan


* Ballot Counters: Thomas Gaul
** Alternate board members :  
*** Cedric
*** kittyhundal
*** DanPrazeresBR


*Agenda
** Board members :
:https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018/ProposedAgenda
*** Etienne
*** keithgoldstein
*** BaileyL
*** RayJohansen
*** MichalGill


Vote: Agenda was approved.
==Absent==


*Outline for the Conference
* Board :
:https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018
** Alternate board members :
** Board members :  
* Board delegatives members :  


* Keynotes by: Naomi Colvin, Marketa Gregorova , Adam Wolf, Barrett Brown, Cédric Levieux (PPFR)
=Ordre du jour=
       
=== Present are:===
* 16 Member Countries Present


===Table of Parties registered (Number presents the voting power)===
* Austria Pirate Party Austria  1 
* Belarus  Pirate Party Belarus  0   
* Belgium  Pirate Party Belgium  0 
* Bosnia and  Herzegovina  0   
* Brazil  Partido Pirata do Brasil  1


* Bulgaria  Pirate Party Bulgaria  0   
==PROCEEDINGS==
* Catalonia  Catalonia Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) 1 
* Croatia  Pirate Party Croatia  0   
* Czech  Republic Pirate Party Czech Republic  1
* Estonia  Pirate Party Estonia  1   


* Finland  0   
Board Rules of Procedure : http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Board/Rules_of_Procedure
* France Parti  Pirate France  1
* Germany  Piratenpartei Deutschland  1 
* Greece  Pirate Party Greece  0
* Hungary  0   


* Israel  Pirate Party Israel  1   
===Chair and secretary===
* Italy  Partito Pirata Italiano  1 
* Japan Pirate  Party Japan  0   
* Kazakhstan  Pirate Party Kazakhstan  0   
* Latvia  Pirātu Partija  0   


* Luxembourg  Pirate Party Luxembourg  1 
<div id="magicdomid33" class=""><span class="">Meeting opened at 21:08 CEST by Bailey</span></div><div id="magicdomid34" class=""><span class="">Meeting chaired by Bailey</span></div><div id="magicdomid35" class=""><span class="">Secretary for this meeting is Etienne</span></div>
* Morocco  Pirate Party Morocco  0   
* Netherlands  Pirate Party Netherlands  1
* New Zealand  Pirate Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) 0 
* New Zealand  Internet Party of New Zealand  (1/2 vote)1   


* Norway  Piratpartiet  1 
<span class="">Streaming started: xxx</span><span class=" url"></span></div><div id="magicdomid39" class=""><span class="">Recording started: 21:08<br></span></div><div class=""><br><span class=""><span class="author-a-z65zb7s7clwcoz68zz90zb1pz90z url">https://owncloud.ag-technik.de/owncloud/index.php/s/jjk4RkeGdd9skQT</span></div>
* Poland  Pirate Party Poland  1   
* Portugal  Partido Pirata Portugues  1 
* Romania  Pirate Party Romania  0   
* Russia  Pirate Party Russia 1   


* Slovakia  Pirate Party Slovakia  0   
===Quorum===
* Slovenia  Pirate Party Slovenia  0   
* South Korea  0   
* Spain Pirate  Party Spain (1/2 vote)  0   
* Switzerland  Pirate Party Switzerland  1 


* Tunisia  Pirate Party Tunisia  1   
Establishing quorum. <br>
* Turkey  Pirate Party Turkey 0   
{{CC|Quorum established with 5 out of 7 board members present. }}
* Ukraine  Pirate Party Ukraine 0       
:Etienne: Guillaume is excused.
:Ladislav, absent not excused </br>


Total Memebers: 38
:Etienne: Koen and Bastian are here
Total voting power: 36
Required present voting power: 12
Required present members: 12.7
Total Registered members: 18
Total Registered voting Power: 17


==Table of countries present in meeting at 10.10AM==
==APPROVAL ON THE MINUTES==
RUNDOWN OF PARTIES PRESENT IN VENUE ROOM PRESENT indicates present in the room
REMOTE indicates present through online participation
second count 11.20


* Austria Pirate Party Austria REMOTE
Link of the last minutes :https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/december-17-2018-xn2s040
* Brazil  Partido Pirata do Brasil REMOTE
* Catalonia  Catalonia Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) REMOTE
* Czech  Republic Pirate Party Czech Republic  LOCAL  PRESENT REMOTE
* France Parti  Pirate France REMOTE
* Germany  Piratenpartei Deutschland  LOCAL PRESENT
* Israel  Pirate Party Israel  PRESENT  REMOTE
* Luxembourg  Pirate Party Luxembourg  PRESENT
* Netherlands  Pirate Party Netherlands  PRESENT  REMOTE
* New Zealand  Internet Party of New Zealand  REMOTE (1/2 Vote at Present)
* Norway  Piratpartiet  PRESENT  REMOTE
* Poland  Pirate Party Poland  REMOTE (not present at 11.20)
* Portugal  Partido Pirata Portugues  REMOTE
* Russia  Pirate Party Russia    REMOTE
* Switzerland  Pirate Party Switzerland  REMOTE PRESENT
* Tunisia  Pirate Party Tunisia  REMOTE


Sum of Parties Present Remotely: 14
{{RCBox-green|<center>:'''Approval on the minutes'''</center>
Sum of Parties Present in Person: 7
:The minutes of the last meeting are approved :
Sum of Parties Attending: 15 (16 if Poland is present)
   
===Delegates Enrolled===


*Russia
:'''YES:''' Mike, Bailey, Ray, Etienne, Keith
*Alexander Abrosov, Alexander Isavnin,  Vladimir Savelev
:'''NO:'''
:'''ABSTENTIONS:'''
*Netherlands
<center>{{CC|Minutes approved}}</center>}}
*Rico Brouwer, Jonathan van Dijken, Dmitri Schrama, Jelle Dirk Pasterkamp
*Norway
*Raymond Johansen,  Svein Mork Dahl


*Germany
==REPORTS==
*Patrick Breyer,  Alexander Spies,  Thomas Gaul,  Bastian,  Gregory Engels,  Jens Stomber,  Michael Sinclair
*Israel
*Keith Goldstein,  Ohad Bar Siman Tov,  Ohad Shem Tov,  Noam Kuzar,  Lidia Mallatin,  Anonymous
*France
*Cédric Levieux (farlistener),  Etienne Evellin


*Portugal
<div>Reports order : <br></div><div><ul><li>Board : Guillaume, Bailey, Keith, Ladislav, Ray, Mike, Etienne</li><li>Alternate : Daniel, Gregory, Kitty, Cédric <br></li></ul></div> </br>
*Andre Rosa
*Tunisia
*Chemseddine BEN JEMAA
*Czech
*Vojtěch Pikal, Giuseppe Maiello, Lukáš Lev Červinka, Markéta Gregorová, Ladislav Koubek, Michal Gill, Mikuláš Peksa, Matej Šandor, Marek Nečada


*Switzerland
:'''BaileyL''': There is the Catalonia project. Keith, Ray and I attende the meeting for the pirate security conference.</br>
*Kilian Brogli,  Carlos Polo
*Luxembourg
*Sven Clement,  Marc Goergen
*Belgium
*Koen De Voegt, Jan Van Opstal
*Catalonia
*Dario Castañé, Muriel Rovira Esteva, Kenneth Peiruza, Oliver Herzig, Enric Pineda
*New Zealand (INPZ)
*Jo Booth
*Italy
*Aram Gurekian (aka Ronin)
*Alessandro Ciofini (aka Solibo)
*Austria
*Roland S
*Poland
*Radosław Pietroń, Piotr Roszatycki
*Brazil
*Dantas Prazeres, Wilson lira Cardoso, Bemficavbemfica
*Estonia
*Eero Elvisto
*Märt Põder


* Quorum is established with 16 present votes out of 36 votes.
:'''RayJohansen''': Business as usual. Same that Bailey about the PCS. I won't be very active before the end of the year.</br>


==Opening Speech by hosts ==
:'''RayJohansen''': Business as usual. Also under the weather so my activity level will be low until the turn of the year.</br>


11:30 - voting on approval of the agenda
:'''MichalGill''': Same for me, I won't be available before the end of the year. I do not send the email yet.</br>


11:45 - reports starting
:'''Etienne''': Nothing new on my side. Sorry. </br>


==Board Report==
:'''kittyhundal''': Nothing to report. I'll be involved on Ray's prject. I'd be happy to participate to the Catalonia project.</br>


:Discussion of the Think Twice Conference, Pirate Security Conference, IT consolidation, ECOSOC activities, social media activities, 2.5 million viewers of our outreach, 50-70 messages are broadcast on a daily basis, increase in volunteers as far as NY, use of Discourse and other tech advances, need for support from our members to keep PPI running.
:'''Cedric''': I installed Congressus. I've full access to the VM. I do my part, I'll upgrade Congressus and I'll inform soon.  
:We translated in French the call for Catalonia project. </br>


==Treasurer Report==
:'''keithgoldstein''': i've been working on UN report for elder people that we need to do quicky. I work on TT4 and PSC.  
: Thanks to specific countries that helped out with conferences, but that needs to be changed in the future. We have an outstanding debt for TT2 that we are still repaying. We have server costs that are being deferred, and these costs will continue next year. A budget has been prepared for 2019. Our financial basis at the moment is that we have approximately 1000 euros and 500 euros in Paypal. So, we do not have a strong level of finances at the moment, and we hope to be better funded in the future. The UN work as well will require further funding.  
We have to sign up our permanent representatives for UN meeting in NY, Vienna and Geneva. </br>


:Question from PPCZ about the plan for the budget for the next year. How PPI spends the money, whether it is effective, whether it should be discussed further, and how to move on? They would like to see a report on how funds are used. Will there be opportunities to sponsor ECOSOC visits and other plans?
==1. TECH ISSUES==


:Question: If PPI was granted 1000 euros, how would PPI use that money? There is debt, projects, and our costs for running the organization.
<div>Points under this item : <br></div><div><ul><li>Give an access to the Information System to Credric</li><li>Any issues remaining to enable Congressus installation</li><li>Functioning of the mailinglists (MO-5 2015 GA)<br></li></ul></div>


==Lay Auditor Report==
: Lay Auditors report that the account as of Aug. there are 1147.69 CHF, according to the WIKI. 1140.69 is the balance at present. The Kraken has no funds. The Drexia account was closed. There is a slight discrepency between the statements, but this may be due to the discrepancy. Paypal 538 euros as far as Wiki, confirmed individual transactions. Cashbox discrepancy, which may be due to Euro and CHF, there is no statement. Advise to clean up the Wiki page so that it only shows the current statements.


:Question: Will the reports be posted to the WkiThe report will be posted to the Wiki? Yes, all of the reports will be included in the Wiki, and the reports are summarized in these minutes.
===Give an access to the Information System to Cedric===
 
==Court of Arbitration Report==
:As our predecessors said :
"The Court of Arbitration had been very lazy. No cases, no meetings no nothing. But we are still alive, hopefully.
My suggestion is that you would please respect this situation, because this is a good working atmospehre for the future."


   
<div class=""><span class="">Give an access to the Information System to Cedric Levieux for Congressus installation and maintenance</span></div><div id="magicdomid91" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/399
==General Assembly Saturday Schedule==
</span><span class=""></span></div><div class=""><br></div><div class=""><span class="">Note : This should be about introductions, tutorials, or other news concerning our decision to experiment with Congressus</span></div><div id="magicdomid93" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class=""><span class="">Person in charge : Cedric</span></span></span><br><span class=""></span><span class=" url"></span></div>
*08:00        Delegates accreditation + ice breaker
*10:00        Opening of the General Assembly - PP Bavaria, hosts
*10:45        Formalities: chair, secretary, new members and agenda
*11:45        Keynote speech by Naomi Colvin - Whistleblowing
*12:30        Chair Report - Board, Treasurer, Lay Auditors and CoA reports
*13:15        Lunch
*14:15        Speech by Marketa Gregorova - Success in Czechia
*15:00        Statutes Amendments aka Changes to Statutes
*16:30        Break
*16:45        Elections o PPI officers <Board: 1 Chairperson, 3 board members, 1 alternate Board member, Court of Arbitration (3-7 members), Lay Auditors (3 persons)
*18:45        Official end of day 1


*Approval of the reports
:RayJohansen: Resolved, and as such needs not be discussed, right?
<Tallies by parties held by the vote takers and should be added here>
:Cedric: We need, in my point to view to make a post-mortem, because I really had a bad experience ...
:Cedric: I was vexed by Bastian during the process. I was really hard to go forward. Please be kind with people, we all do mistakes.
:BaileyL: Thank you to Cédric and Bastian. Cédric did a really great job.
:Bastian : Lot of issues, I'm not discuting those issues with all board. If I've a tech issues, I'll clear that with my colleage. I'm quite upset about what Cedric just said but we'll have to speak about this later.


:yes 9, no 0, abstain 3.5
===Any issues remaining to enable Congressus installation===
motion is passed


*Discharge of the Board, Treasurer, and Lay Auditors
<div id="magicdomid99" class=""><span class="">Any issues remaining to enable Congressus installation: public key, subdomain, encryption of credentials, etc.</span></div><div id="magicdomid100" class=""><span class=""></span><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/400</span></div><div id="magicdomid102" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class=""><span class="">Person in charge</span></span></span> : Cédric<br></span></div>
<Tallies by parties held by the vote takers and should be added here>  


:yes 9.5, no 0 , abstain 1
:Cedric: Only few upgrade to make to have full functionality between discord and congressus, explain more what is the personae part for delegation between members
motion is passed


* Approval of the minutes last GAs:
===Functioning of the mailinglists (MO-5 2016 GA)===
: Minutes of the 2017 GA  
http://wiki.pp-international.net/Minutes_of_Online_GA_2017-1
https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=Minutes_of_Online_GA_2017-1


* Pirate Party Austria - ABST
<div id="magicdomid201" class=""><span class="">Functioning of the mailinglists (MO-5 2016 GA)</span></div><div id="magicdomid202" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/372</span></div><div id="magicdomid203" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : None</span></span></div><div id="magicdomid204" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-style: italic;"><span class="">
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - ABST
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - ABS
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - YES
* Parti  Pirate France - YES
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - YES
* Pirate Party Israel - YES
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - YES
* Pirate Party Netherlands - ABS
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - YES
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - YES
* Pirate Party Poland - 0
* Partido Pirata Portugues - YES
* Pirate Party Russia - ABS
* Pirate Party Switzerland - YES
* Pirate Party Tunisia - 0


:Yes 8.5, No 0, Abstain 4.5
Note : Also, Keith would like to again propose uniting the PPI discussion and PP-Leaders email addresses, and I think we need to make an announcement that users who wish to write to the group now need to use the email pp-leaders@groups.pp-international.net  ***GROUPS</span></span></div>
Motion is passed


==Report of the Tech Team==
:keithgoldstein: I have a point for this task. I asked before about combining pp-leaders and pp-discussion, and we did not, but it seems to me there are many people who for whatever reason signed up for pp-discussions and not pp-leaders, and we should combine these lists, because no one uses pp-leaders.discussion.
:Report by Bastian. Tech team was founded in the past year. There was a need to build a new server, which was successful. There were complications. We have an aim to give support to every party and every organization. Service was continuous, without a break between transition. The Wiki was reorganized. There is now no spam and no spam users on the Wiki. Etherpad lite has been developed for easy use, and teams for difficult use. Redmine was repaired. The database was recovered. If you have questions, there is an email address where you can contact the tech team: support@pp-international.net
:BaileyL: I second that. I've heard about good argument for not doing it.  


:Special thanks to Bastian for supporting us.  
{{CC|Keith will fix this.}}</br>
:Bastian : I can put people on the same ML. We have to care for the needs of the members. We need to ask people before to delete them. </br>
:keithgoldstein: the groups. is important. before you did not have to use groups. , so it is important that everyone knows that. i will clarify in an email.
:exactly. we are just going to combine the mailing lists.
:We are not going to throw them away.
:I am just going to send all pp-leaders emails to both mailing lists.


==2. FINANCIAL ISSUES==


==Keynote Speech by Naomi Colvin==
<div>Points under this item : <br></div><div><ul><li>Collection of Affiliation Fees Due in 2018</li><li>Provinding Invoices For Payment</li><li>Affiliation fees that are due to be paid before the end of 2019</li><li>Budget</li><li>Cashiers</li></ul><div><br></div></div>
:Aaron's Law and Other Unfinished Business
:Monopoly companies, such as FB, are scared of being broken up. Pressure though is also coming from governments, who are trying to implace limitations on speech. These are limitations that governments do not want to place themselves, but which they try to get companies to do for them. In the UK, there was a petition to ban FB groups. It is dark time, which can depress us. Aaron Swartz, Lauri Love are displayed as examples. There is an issue of the accused being forced into plea bargains. Ruling of Lauri Love stated that the US could not be trusted. There is an unaccountable and mysterious process of extradition. In the case of Lauri, all of the newspapers came out in support of him. Gary McKinnon also faced a similar ordeal of extradition. The precedent of Lauri has been applied for further cases, hence influencing future extradition cases. Pirates and other activists are to thank for assisting. Aaron's law remains unfinished business. The law proposed two changes to the computer fraud act, such as there should be limits to prosecutors and how people are prosecuted. However, Aaron's law got stuck in the US Congress. This is a problem for everyone. International Cyber Crime Convention mirrors the computer fraud and abuse act. About 20 countries have signed up to the convention so far. We should not give up hope, even though Aaron's law is not going anywhere. There is a problem for security research, when someone is trying to do the right thing and gets in trouble for it. The ban on unauthorized access is also a problem for journalism, as journalists can be accused of computer crime law violations. The case of Kemi Badenoch is discussed as a hypocrisy, as a hacker was not punished because she was a conservative MP in the UK. They call this program Prevent, which is shared by the National Crime Agency.
Too many people are being accused under the law, or could be accused under the law, and hence the law should be changed. In the Netherlands they have distinguished between those who are prosecuted based on whether there was some malicious intent. There are several bills that are moving forward in the US and elsewhere about the boundaries of cybersecurity. The revisions are either to change the law or to carve out exceptions to the law. The European Commission is working on whistleblower protections. Germany lacks protections, and there is a need for a wide law to protect whistleblowers. The text surprised people by the amount that it was extensive. There is a broad definition of who gets to claim to be a whistleblower, which is very comprehensive. This may become more contraversial next year when the European Council examines it.
If you want to help, contact @auerfeld  . naomi@auerfeld.com


==Speech by Marketa Gregorova -  Success in Czechia==  
===Collection of Affiliation Fees Due in 2018===
*Resumed after Lunch 15.15
*Pirate Party in Czech Republic was established, based on the Swedish model, in 2009. They steadily gained traction until 2017 with 22 out of 200 seats in the parliament.  A stable foundation among students helped in their growth. One of the main challenges they faced was to get people to know they even exist. Also they were perceived as a single issue party. To break through that they focused on finance also. Their core claim; ' let us at them!' [let us at the old structures, we will reconstruct them remake them] their approach; get their supporters [who were some of the non-voters, to come out and vote.
their logos were black/white, understandable, clear. They got ignored by media, as they were perceived as rebels, their approach allowed fr a more rebellious approach. They got a large bus, painted provocative cartoons on it of unresolved corruption cases. It was a prison bus. Fundraising was done through a Kickstarter platform. Small donations for clear achievable goals. They hired professional campaigners. Not just for their skils, but aso their network. Politics is about people, not only with politicians but also in media and marketing. Maybe even more so.


*One of our most viral things were songs. One of our leaders is an accordionist and singer. We created songs. They had a solar boat aso, promoted themselves as greens, and as pirates with the boat. Communications and integral disagreements were an issue in their party also. [like in more Pirate parties] Prague was a large part of their team, they did try to keep connected to the regional Pirates. Centralization didn't really work. When people misconceive you or don't know you, you need to become a relevant player then! team with other competent people. invest in a research about you and yur voters, it is worth more tan a ton of leaflets.
<div id="magicdomid111" class=""><span class="">Collection of Affiliation Fees Due in 2018</span></div><div id="magicdomid112" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/403</span></div><div id="magicdomid113" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Speaker : Mike</span></span></div>


==Admittance of new PPI Members==
:MichalGill: As I said before. I'm on it but I'm really busy actually.
*No new applications for members.


==Issues of Statements==
===Providing Invoices for Payments===
Statements made by Martin, Alex, Vojtech, and Guillaume.


==Statutes Amendments==
<div id="magicdomid115" class=""><span class="">Providing Invoices for Payments</span></div><div id="magicdomid116" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/405</span></div><div id="magicdomid117" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Speaker : Mike</span></span></div>
*Statutes amandes need to be proposed at least 4 weeks beforehead and send out to all members
:We need 10 votes (11 if Poland shows up) to
:2/3 voting power is required for approval.


*Full texts of the statute revisions are found within the Discourse:  
:MichalGill: I received the last year template. I've to fix it for 2018 fees.
https://ppi.savvy.ch/c/Proposals/statutes-revision
   
*Revisions to Articles XII. Board and XIII. Functions of the Board. Motion “Increase the Board Size”
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/revisions-to-articles-xii-board-and-xiii-functions-of-the-board-motion-increase-the-board-size/15


:Name of the motion : Increase the Board Size
===Affiliation fees that are due to be paid before the end of 2019===
:Presentation of the motion : We propose to increase the board size of PPI by 4 members
Keith; as the board we felt we needed a bigger team, need more manpower.
counterproposal explanation by Germany:
Gregory, discusses the German rationale for increase by two members.
     
:PPDE proposes that half of the new members are elected for one year, and the other half are elected for two years.
PPDE recommends only increasing the board size by two members.


:PPIL would like at least 4 additional board members, owing to the increasing amount of work and human capital that the Board requires.
<div id="magicdomid119" class=""><span class="">Affiliation fees that are due to be paid before the end of 2019</span></div><div id="magicdomid120" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/404</span></div><div id="magicdomid121" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Speaker : Mike</span></span></div>


:There was a question from PPCZ about what specific work the board needs help with. A list of vice-secretary positions was explained
:MichalGill: As I said before. I'm on it but I'm really busy actually.  
a) Vice-Secretary for Member Relations
b) Vice-Secretary for International Institutions and NGO Affairs
c) Vice-Secretary for International Policies
d) Vice-Secretary for Training
e) Vice-Secretary for Communications and Social Media
f) Vice-Secretary for Conferences and Special Events
g) Vice-Secretary for IT (application development and website maintenance)


:It was decided that this list does not need to be included in the statutes and can be decided among the board.
===Budget===


:The original statute is as follows
<div id="magicdomid123" class=""><span class="">Budget</span></div><div id="magicdomid124" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/391</span></div><div id="magicdomid125" class=""><br><span class=""><span class="">Also update balances from cashiers.</span></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Speaker : Mike</span></span></div><div id="magicdomid126" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div>
:(3) The Board is composed of: a) one Chairperson, b) one Vice-Chairperson, c) five additional Board Members
:This statute would be changed to 3, 7 (PPDE) or 9 (PPIL).


:There is a counter proposal from PPCZ for a smaller board of only 5 members.  
:RayJohansen: I propose this item be called Budgets, plural.
:The board needs to be presented with and formalize the following:
:Budget 2019
:Quarterly budget 2019
:Liquidity budget 2019 (sometimes referred to as cash flow budget)
:Quarterly Liquidity budget 2019
:In addition, the board needs to decide on what we demand in the form of financial reports for each board meeting. I think this should be its own point: Reporting


:Does the GA agree to increase the board size by 0, 2, or 4 members?  Or decrease the board by 2 members? (This article would go into effect at the current GA.)
===Cashiers===
:(3) The Board is composed of: a) one Chairperson, b) one Vice-Chairperson, c) five additional Board Members


:Section c) of this statute would be changed to 3 (PPCZ), 7 (PPDE) or 9 (PPIL).
<div id="magicdomid129" class=""><span class="">Cashiers</span></div><div id="magicdomid130" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/337</span></div><div class=""><br><span class=""><span class="">We have a retiring cashier.</span></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Speaker : Guillaume</span></span></br>


:Argument to be aware of creating functions, because the board should not be the only body that is working.  
:keithgoldstein: Rudulph is retiring.
:We have a conflict of interest with the other cashier that became Lay Auditors.
:Guillaume will find to people and we'll have to nominated here.


:Discussion that for UN ECOSOC, WTO, there needs to be formal representation. We have trouble serving our workload. Things like fundraising require a huge amount of hours, and we are falling short. Conference development also needs leadership. The increase in the number of board members is to ensure that the areas that we cover, which has grown, are covered. We need to have more people supporting us from a formal standpoint, and to bring leadership to support working groups. This will also help to get more people involved.
==3. ADMINISTRATION==


:Comment that Pirates keep things simple.
<div>Items under this point : <br></div><div><ul><li>Rules of procedures</li><li>Members</li><li>Monthly outreach meeting</li><li>Tools<br></li></ul></div></span>


:Comment that we have to establish a quorum, so if there are more members it will be more difficult to establish a quorum.
===Rules of procedure===


:Comment from Etienne that the proposal to increase the board size is a recommendation from board members, who know how much the board works and what they need. People are politically responsible from the GA. The GA can say that they do not like something, but the GA can decide if they want a particular member.
<div>Items under this point : <br></div><div><ul><li>Change to Board RoP #1 - Deleting §5 - point 3</li><li>Change to Board RoP #2 - Adding minimum criteria for agenda items<br></li></ul></div>


:Comment that the board cannot handle all international organizations. Board members could not represent. Discussion that there are not enough funds... The goal should not be that giving a title motivates people to work. Giving someone a title and expecting them to work is how it works in every other party. It should be that people work, so we give them the title.
====Change to Board RoP # 1 - Deleting §5 - point 3====


We are doing a straw pool on what proposal has most support. Winner will be then voted upon according to  current statutes by 2/3 majority (11 votes needed)
<div id="magicdomid176" class=""><span class="">Proposal for board meeting: Change to Board RoP # 1 - Deleting §5 - point 3</span></div><div id="magicdomid177" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/394</span></div><div id="magicdomid178" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span class="">We were supposed to have a rule addition to clarify the rules after removing this rule.</span></div><div id="magicdomid179" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span class="">Person in charge : Gregory and Ray</span></div>


We are voting to change section c) of statute XII.3, which would be changed from 5 to 3 (PPCZ), 7 (PPDE) or 9 (PPIL).
:RayJohansen: This has been resolved and does not need to be in the agenda. But someone should edit the wiki to reflect the boards decision.
Parties can support no proposals, one proposal, two proposals, or all.
:RayJohansen: Someone "suggested" there was a need for clarification of the rules after removing this. There is no need for clarification. The a board decision is from now on made by a simple majority. Which is more than half of quorum.
:keithgoldstein: I think there is a need, because now it states "Decisions are taken by a majority of board members present at the meeting."
:RayJohansen: We need to change the rules on the wiki. If that constitutes a problem that I'm not aware of please explain.
:keithgoldstein: We still have the possibility to take decision with only three members persons.  
:RayJohansen: Okay, so we need to have to make a new proposition for the next meeting.
:keithgoldstein: So now we only need 3 votes still for a board decision. A further rule is required that we will need to propose for the next board meeting.


:Votes
====Change to Board RoP # 2 - Adding minimum criteria for agenda items====


* Pirate Party Austria - none
<div id="magicdomid181" class=""><span class="">Proposal for board meeting: Change to Board RoP # 2 - Adding minimum criteria for agenda items</span></div><div id="magicdomid182" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/395</span></div><div id="magicdomid183" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span class="">Discuss criteria and programs that must correlate, Redmine, Congressus.</span></div><div class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span class="">Person in charge : none
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - none
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 3
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - 3
* Parti  Pirate France - 9
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - 7, 9
* Pirate Party Israel - 7, 9
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - 3
* Pirate Party Netherlands - 7
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - 9
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - 7, 9
* Pirate Party Poland - none
* Partido Pirata Portugues - 7, 9
* Pirate Party Russia - 7
* Pirate Party Switzerland - 7
* Pirate Party Tunisia - 7, 9


For 3: 2,5
:RayJohansen: This was postponed to include more proposals for changes by Gregory Engels. It does not need to be in this agenda and is postponed until such a time Gregory is finished with his work.
For 7: 8
:keithgoldstein:
For 9: 6,5
:keithgoldstein: We wait to discuss this topic until a later date.
{{CC|Topic is postponed until the next meeting. }}


===Members===


:We are voting whether to increase the number of additional board members to 7. There would be an increase of 2 board members. 
<div>Items under this point : <br></div><div><ul><li>Inventory of PPI members and pirates parties</li><li>Nonmember Contact<br></li></ul></div>


:Votes
====Inventory of PPI members and pirates parties====
* Pirate Party Austria - Nay
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abs
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - nay
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - nay
* Parti  Pirate France - yes
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - yes
* Pirate Party Israel - yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - nee
* Pirate Party Netherlands - yes
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - yes
* Pirate Party Poland - no
* Partido Pirata Portugues - yes
* Pirate Party Russia - yes
* Pirate Party Switzerland - yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - yes


9.5 - yes
<div id="magicdomid206" class=""><span class="">Inventory of PPI members and pirates parties</span></div><div id="magicdomid207" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/366</span></div><div id="magicdomid208" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Ray</span></span></div>
4.5 - no
1 - abs


Not passed
:RayJohansen: This is an old thing that has been at 100 % for quite some time. For the next board meeting a project that aims to describe a plan to make tech for member administration - will be presented. It will not happen in this meeting.
:keithgoldstein: There is a working group, which can be dismissed as resolved and moved to the working group.


*Article XIII.9. Functions of the Board:
====Nonmember Contact====
:It is requested by PPIL to add the following line to the statutes after XIII.9, which complies with the decision made at the 2015 GA to have standing committees.
“The Board is given the duty to take necessary steps in order to establish a standing committee infrastructure within PPI: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=Decisons_of_GA#Standing_Committees”
keith: this is a formality.


Add
<div id="magicdomid210" class=""><span class="">Nonmember Contact</span></div><div id="magicdomid211" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/366</span></div><div id="magicdomid212" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span class="">Announcement of full observer membership interest from Chile, make sure that we get all applications from interested parties as soon as possible.</span></div><div id="magicdomid213" class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class=""><br></span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Keith</span></span></div>
XIII: (10) The Board is given the duty to take necessary steps in order to establish a standing committee infrastructure within PPI: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=Decisons_of_GA#Standing_Committees”


:Votes
:keithgoldstein: Chile contacts us. Some parties express that they want to join the PPI. If some party contacts you please don't wait to long before to help them complete their application.
* Pirate Party Austria - yes
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abs
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - yes
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - abs
* Parti  Pirate France - yes
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - nay
* Pirate Party Israel - Yay
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - yes
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - no
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - no
* Pirate Party Poland - yes
* Partido Pirata Portugues -yes
* Pirate Party Russia - abs
* Pirate Party Switzerland - no
* Pirate Party Tunisia - yes


YES: 8.5
===Monthly outreach meeting===
NAY: 3.5
ABS: 3


Not passed
<div id="magicdomid189" class=""><span class="">Monthly outreach meeting</span></div><div id="magicdomid190" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/379</span></div><div id="magicdomid191" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Bailey</span></span></div>


*Revisions to Article XIII.6 Functions of the Board
:RayJohansen: This does not belong in the agenda. When, and only when, Bailey decides to present a plan for the meetings it will be on the agenda again. (IMHO)
:It is requested by PPIL to add the following line to the statutes, which references the RoP. The original proposal was revised after discussion with other parties.
“The Board shall refer to the Rules of Procedure: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Board/Rules_of_Procedure”


:Does the GA agree to include a reference to the RoP in the statutes?
===Tools===


:Votes
<div>Items under this point : <br></div><div><ul><li>Board Decision, Tasks, Voting Organization Tool</li><li>Board meeting location : test Discord</li><li>Updating Decisions of the Board on our wiki<br></li></ul></div>
This revision was rescinded by PPIL.


*Revisions to Article VII. Termination of Membership
====Board Decision, Tasks, Voting Organization Tool====


:Request by PPIL to remove the requirement of a tenth of Members from three different continents.
<div id="magicdomid104" class=""><span class="">Board Decision, Tasks, Voting Organization Tool</span></div><div id="magicdomid105" class=""><span class=""></span><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/398</span></div><div id="magicdomid106" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span class="">Discussion of continuation to update using which programs and where to include what.</span></div><div class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class=""><span class="">Person in charge</span></span></span> : None</span><br></span></div>
(2) The decisions on the changes of Membership, such as suspension, reinstatement and exclusion, fall within the competence of the Court of Arbitration, and can be appealed to the General Assembly. If the Member appeals, the decision becomes effective at the end of the Meeting of the General Assembly, unless the General Assembly decides otherwise. A proposal for decisions on the change of Membership to Court of Arbitration may only be submitted by the Board, or by group of tenth of Ordinary Members.


:Does the GA agree to remove the requirement of three different continents and be specific to Ordinary Members?
:RayJohansen: We are in the middle of a test of one of several tools. We do not need to discuss this in this meeting, IMHO. It does not need to be in the agenda until such a time the item is proposed again. I will do so after the tests are done. When we do make a decision on this the reasons for our choices must be made clear in supporting documents that must be written. This is especially true when we choose non-open source solutions.


====Board meeting location : test Discord====


: Does the GA agree to chanche the statutes as follows:
<div id="magicdomid95" class=""><span class="">Proposal for board meeting: Board meeting location : test Discord</span></div><div id="magicdomid96" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/396</span></div><div id="magicdomid97" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class=""><span class="">Person in charge</span></span></span> : Etienne</span></span></div>
Original text
(2) The decisions on the changes of Membership, such as suspension, reinstatement and exclusion, fall within the competence of the Court of Arbitration, and can be appealed to the General Assembly. If the Member appeals, the decision becomes effective at the end of the Meeting of the General Assembly, unless the General Assembly decides otherwise. A proposal for the exclusion of a Member may only be submitted by the Board, or by a tenth of Members from three different continents.


to:  
:RayJohansen: We are now testing it. There is no need to discuss it in this board meeting.  
   
(2) The decisions on the changes of Membership, such as suspension, reinstatement and exclusion, fall within the competence of the Court of Arbitration, and can be appealed to the General Assembly. If the Member appeals, the decision becomes effective at the end of theMeeting of the General Assembly, unless the General Assembly decides otherwise. A proposal for decisions on the change of Membership to Court of Arbitration may only be submitted by the Board, or by group of tenth of Ordinary Members.


:Votes
====Updating Decisions of the Board on our Wiki====


* Pirate Party Austria - YES
<div id="magicdomid142" class=""><span class="">Updating Decisions of the Board on our Wiki</span></div><div id="magicdomid143" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/401</span></div><div id="magicdomid144" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Keith and Thomas</span></span></div>
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - ABS
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - YES
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - YES
* Parti  Pirate France - YES
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - JA
* Pirate Party Israel - Yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - YO
* Pirate Party Netherlands - Ja
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - YES
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - YES
* Pirate Party Poland - 0
* Partido Pirata Portugues - YES
* Pirate Party Russia - YES
* Pirate Party Switzerland - YEs
* Pirate Party Tunisia - YEs


:Yes - 13
:keithgoldstein: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Board/Decisions_of_Board&action=edit&redlink=1
:No - 0
:keithgoldstein: We are updating the decisions. We could use help. Please help, pick some minutes.
:Abstain  - 1
:keithgoldstein: I've done the first board from 2010. It's a lot of work. Any help is welcome. Just choose one meeting and work !
:The motion is passed.


==Elections of PPI officers ==
==4. COMMUNICATION==


===Board===
<div>Items under this point : <br></div><div><ul><li>PPI Newsletter</li><li>Article On Using Online Democracy Tools</li><li>Video Campaign <br></li></ul></div>
*If any members are not listed as nominees that should be please declare it to the GA prior to voting


*There is a discussion of whether to delay the voting for tomorrow. Some of the online delegates are opposed.
===PPI Newsletter===


===Chairperson===
<div id="magicdomid150" class=""><span class="">PPI Newsletter</span></div><div id="magicdomid151" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/388</span></div><div id="magicdomid152" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Bailey and Keith</span></span></div>
* Candidates:
:Guillaume Saouli


:Votes
:RayJohansen: I do not see the need to discuss this in the meeting. We have discussed it and had it on the agenda since forever. Non of those times has a description of the task been made. In addition no person in charge of it has been found. Some say we should have a newsletter, (but what a news letter is has not been formulatet), while some contend that we do not need a new thing when we have trouble writing things for the things we already have. Wordpress, Facebook, Twitter and emails.


* Pirate Party Austria - Yes
===Article on Using Online Democracy Tools===
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - Abs
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - Yes
* Pirate Party Czech Republic -Yes
* Parti  Pirate France - Yes
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - Yes
* Pirate Party Israel -  Yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - Abs
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - Yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
* Pirate Party Poland - Yes
* Partido Pirata Portugues - Yes
* Pirate Party Russia - Yes
* Pirate Party Switzerland - Yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - Yes


:The vote is acccepted with 14 Yes (13 votes) and 2 Abstaining.
<div id="magicdomid185" class=""><span class="">Article on Using Online Democracy Tools</span></div><div id="magicdomid186" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/380</span></div><div id="magicdomid187" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Guillaume</span></span></div>
:Guillaume Saouli remains Chairperson of PPI.


=== Board Members===
{{CC|No updates. }}
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/nomitations-here/74/8
:keithgoldstein: Please keep in mind, you can write article ! Any participation is welcomed.  
*We are electing 3 board members.
:BaileyL: If you want to write about anything, make a video go !


* Candidates:
===Video Campaign===
:Magnus Andersson - accepts
:Sven Clement - accepts
:Stanley Cohen - accepts
:Etienne Evellin - accepts
:Thomas Gaul - accepts
:Michal Gill - accepts
:Marketa Gregorova - no
:Kitty Hundal - accepts
:Alexander Isavnin - accepts
:Ladislav Koubek - accepts
:Sebastian Krone - accepts
:Cédric Levieux  - accepts


<div id="magicdomid197" class=""><span class="">Video Campaign</span></div><div id="magicdomid198" class=""><span class=""></span><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/377</span></div><div id="magicdomid199" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Ray</span></span></div>


numbered candidates;
==5. ECOSOC==
1.  Magnus Andersson (NO)
2. :Sven Clement (DE)
3. : Stanley Cohen (NO)
3. : Etienne Evellin (NO)
4.  Thomas Gaul (FR)
5. Michal Gill ()
6  Kitty Hundal
7.  Alexander Isavnin
8.  Ladislav Koubek
10 .Sebastian Krone
11. Cédric Levieux
12. Adam Wolf


Procedural motion to end session now;
<div>Items under this point : <br></div><div><ul><li>Requestion for Inputs</li><li>Annual Membership Passes for UNHQ - New-York<br></li></ul></div><div><br></div>
===Request for Inputs===


One: end now, continue tommorow
<div id="magicdomid138" class=""><span class="">Request for Inputs to 10th session of the General Assembly’s Open-ended Working Group on Ageing</span></div><div id="magicdomid139" class=""><span class=""></span><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/402</span></div><div id="magicdomid140" class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class=""><br></span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Keith</span></span></div>
Two: end now, present online, vote tomorroe
* Pirate Party Austria - abs
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abs
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - abs
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - one
* Parti  Pirate France - two
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - one
* Pirate Party Israel - abs
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - one
* Pirate Party Netherlands -  one
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - one
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - one
* Pirate Party Poland - 0
* Partido Pirata Portugues - abs
* Pirate Party Russia - two
* Pirate Party Switzerland - one
* Pirate Party Tunisia - one


abs - 4.5
:keithgoldstein: This a very important task. The dead line is February 1st. All the details are in the Redmine task. Please join.  
one - 6.5
two - 2


Nobody opposed the motion to end now and continue tommorow at 9:00 as stated in approved agenda
===Annual Membership Passes for UNHQ - New York===


==Opening of the Second Day of the General Assembly==
<div id="magicdomid146" class=""><span class="">Annual Membership Passes for UNHQ - New York</span></div><div id="magicdomid147" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/384</span></div><div id="magicdomid148" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Keith</span></span></div>


Minutes of the PPI GA 2018 Sunday, 4 November 2018 (Munich)
:keithgoldstein: Please nominate people from Geneva, from N-Y (and Vienna).
Have been copied to the following Wiki: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Minutes_2018_11_19


* [INSERT TIME] Meeting opened by Guillaume Saouli
==4. CONFERENCES==


* Chair of the meeting: Vojtech Pikal
<div>Items under this point : <br></div><div><ul><li>Pirate Security Conference</li><li>Think Twice #4<br></li></ul></div>
*Cochairs: Guillaume Saouli, Bailey Lamon
* Secretaries of the meeting: Rico Brouwer, Keith Goldstein
*  Secretary for Online Delegates: Raymond Johansan


* Ballot Counters: Thomas Gaul
===PCS===


*Agenda
<div>Item under this point : <br></div><div><ul><li>Proposal for agenda item : Pirate Security Conference - Discussion</li></ul></div>
:https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018/ProposedAgenda


*Outline for the Conference
====Proposal for agenda item: Pirate Security Conference - discussion====
:https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018
   
read only link: https://pad.pirati.cz/p/r.8a3bbd198be28dff88b5e263c9517cc6


4.11. 9:00
<div id="magicdomid161" class=""><span class="">Proposal for agenda item: Pirate Security Conference - discussion</span></div><div id="magicdomid162" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/392</span></div><div id="magicdomid163" class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class=""><br></span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Ray, Bailey, Keith</span></span></div><div id="magicdomid164" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span class="">Here is a discussion of the meeting that we had on 12/13</span></div><div id="magicdomid165" class=""><span class=" url">https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/psc-meeting-dec-14-pv9b03v</span></div><div id="magicdomid166" class=""><span class=""><Please add announcements from pad></span></div>
Technical break to reetablish connection with remotes.


:RayJohansen: This agenda item was resolved. A discussion happened and was acted on. Things were clarified.
:AFTER budgets have been formalized we will then see IF we have the cash flow to give 400 euros to PSC. But that is for a new item when we can do it.
:RayJohansen: On a sidenote. There can only be one person in charge. Many may participate but there cannot be more than one "Person in Charge"
:BaileyL: We attended the organization meeting. It was really good. We got an idea how they handle this and how PPI can help. Our role is not clear, but we might help with social media communication.
:keithgoldstein: They are thinking about having a PPI speaker in the event to speak on behalf of the movement.


* Pirate Party Austria -
===TT4===
* Partido Pirata do Brasil -
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
* Pirate Party Czech Republic -
* Parti  Pirate France - r
* Piratenpartei Deutschland -
* Pirate Party Israel -
* Pirate Party Luxembourg -
* Pirate Party Netherlands - r
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) -
* Piratpartiet (Norway) -
* Pirate Party Poland -
* Partido Pirata Portugues -
* Pirate Party Russia -
* Pirate Party Switzerland -
* Pirate Party Tunisia -
       
       
*There is an announcement at 10:10 am CEST that we after the presentation of Congressus at 10:30 CEST we will check if there are enough members to make Quorum. If not then we will close the meeting and just proceed with presentations. The alternate board members would be promoted to board members, and we will convene the GA online at a later time to votes on the nominations and motions. It was asked if anyone was opposed, and there were no objections.


==Establishing quorum==
<div>Item under this point : <br></div><div>Proposal for Board meeting : Think Twice #4  - Discussion</div>
*IX. (5) The physical or remote presence of Ordinary Members gathering one third of the total voting power shall constitute a quorum.


*We have 38 members with total voting power of 37.
====Proposal for board meeting: Think Twice #4 - discussion====
*We require 12.3+ voting power to establish the qourum


*According to Art. I .1 RoP: Any official debate and voting may only continue when a third of Ordinary Members are represented locally or remotely.(St IX(5))
<div id="magicdomid169" class=""><span class="">Proposal for board meeting: Think Twice #4 - discussion</span></div><div id="magicdomid170" class=""><span class=" url">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/393</span></div><div id="magicdomid171" class=""><span class=""><br></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Ladislav, Mike, Keith and Koen</span></span></div><div id="magicdomid172" class=""><br></div>
We require 13+ of Ordinary Members to continue debate nd voting


* Pirate Party Austria - r
:RayJohansen: This was resolved. There was a discussion where it was clarified a plan including budget must be penned and presented to the board who only then can decide IF we will run the conference. (There should be only one person in charge, although many might be listed as participants.)
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - r
:MichalGill: The information is in the hand of the PPCZ board. We have to wait.
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
:keithgoldstein: Koen said that he'll working on the website. We have to set up a working group for coordination.
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - r, p
:RayJohansen: Point of order : Please remove this two points of order. If there are any news, put up new agenda items. This two have been resolved.
* Parti  Pirate France - r
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - r, p
* Pirate Party Israel - ｒ,p
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - proxy (PPCZ)
* Pirate Party Netherlands - proxy(PPNL) r,p
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - r
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - p
* Pirate Party Poland -
* Partido Pirata Portugues -
* Pirate Party Russia -  r
* Pirate Party Switzerland - p
* Pirate Party Tunisia - p


12 members
==6. STATUES REVISION==
11.5 voting power


10:20 reopening
<div>Item under this point : <br></div><div><ul><li>Subgroup for revamping the language of the PPI Statutes<br></li></ul></div>


* Pirate Party Austria - online
===Subgroup for revamping the language of the PPI statutes===
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - online
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - here
* Parti  Pirate France - online
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - present
* Pirate Party Israel - present
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - proxy
* Pirate Party Netherlands -  present
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - remote
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - present
* Pirate Party Poland -
* Partido Pirata Portugues -
* Pirate Party Russia - remote
* Pirate Party Switzerland - present
* Pirate Party Tunisia - remote


13 members present
<div id="magicdomid154" class=""><span class="">Subgroup for revamping the language of the PPI statutes</span></div><div id="magicdomid155" class="">https://redmine.pp-international.net/issues/376</span></div><div id="magicdomid156" class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class=""><br></span></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span class="">Person in charge : Etienne, Guillaume, Keith</span></span></div>
12.5 voting power


*Quorum is established.
:Etienne: This point is not relevant because we decided to set up a new process.
*Meeting of the GA is opened at 10:24 CEST by Vojtech Pikal


==Presentation of Congressus by Cédric Levieux ==
==AOB - Any other business==
:This is a program that allows you to create texts/laws and other tasks,  which can be organized with arguments pro and against. There are votes, which are synchronous and asynchronous. PPFR has used this process for the past two years. A live demonstration was provided.
https://github.com/PartiPirate/congressus
:Cedric comments that he does need help with translations, and PPI could be a great venue for making the program more international.


==Elections of PPI officers ==
:keithgoldstein: There is a huge project for fund raising : register to the state of Geneva but it's a lot of work.
:RayJohansen: We starts to use Congressus and Discord. it's really impressing. It's well organize... I'm ready to call it a huge success. It only gets better. It can helps us to work in a more professional way.
:I want to thank Bailey for this really good first meeting.
:I want to the French members for this tool
:BaileyL: It is an awesome tool... Thank you to Cédric and Etienne for the tool, and Bastian.
:The raise hand helps me.


===Board===
==NEXT MEETING==
*If any members are not listed as nominees that should be please declare it to the GA prior to voting
*We confirmed the list of members running for the board, and we will vote on this list following the presentation of Congressus.


== Election of board members==
Next meeting : Sunday 30th - 9PM CET</br>
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/nomitations-here/74/8
*We are electing 3 board members.
*There is a motion that we limit the presentations of board members to one minute. No one objected


* Candidates:
:RayJohansen: Suggestion: Sunday December 30th 17:00 CET
:Magnus Andersson - accepts
:RayJohansen: Thomas
:Sven Clement - accepts
:Forget the 30th. Skip to 07.01.
:Stanley Cohen - accepts
:14:00 CET
:Etienne Evellin - accepts
:Make it Sund. the 14th
:Thomas Gaul - accepts
{{CC|The 30th meeting is skip. }}
:Michal Gill - accepts
:RayJohansen: Chair sees the opportunities and just invites if no objections are given.
:Marketa Gregorova - no
{{CC|Decided date : Mon. 14th January - 21:00 CET
:Kitty Hundal - accepts
Where ? On the French Discord}}
:Alexander Isavnin - accepts
:Ladislav Koubek - accepts
:Sebastian Krone - accepts, later resinds the nomination
:Cédric Levieux  - accepts


*Magnus indicates that he is from PP of Sweden. This is not an indiication that PPSE will rejoin PPI, but he thinks it is a great organization as an umbrella. His contribution will be to make the Board more professional. He will not be able to join until after the EU elections.
=Ayant participé à un vote=


*Sven is not present and his proxy presents. Sven is one of the founding chairpersons in PP Luxembourg. He is one of the longest running chairpersons in all of the pirates.
* 9 - MichalGill
 
* 5 - BaileyL
*Stanley is not present. He lacks a proxy.
* 6 - RayJohansen
 
* 3 - Etienne
*Etienne is present online. He is from PPFR. He has a masters in law. He will try to present more technical aspects. He is a technician. He wrote the statutes and rules of proceedures.
* 4 - keithgoldstein
 
*Michal he mostly works as a translator. He has worked on multiple elections.He has worked on technical systems that PPEU can help.
 
*Kitty is online. She is currently working on the Assange campaign. She has a background as a librarian and later in computer science. She is now retired and works to help the persecuted and positive causes such as the Pirate party. She sees the pirate party as a way to create a transitional environment.
 
*Alex is online.
 
*Ladislav has worked around the world with the UN. He worked as an economist. As a program manager as well. He would like to help with the ECOSOC agenda. Due to his past experience with the UN he can help transform the pirates.
 
*Cedric is online. As a French IT guy, he would like to be the PPI IT guy. His main proposal is Edemocracy as shown in Congressus. .
 
*Adam is online. He is currently the political director of the pirates in lower Saxon. He is a city councilman for the Pirates. Worldwide free educational concepts and ways of teaching he promotes. He is a former captain who helped mostly refugees in the Mediterranean. He speaks Spanish, German, and English.
 
*Thomas has been involved in PPI for a long time. He is a civil engineer.
 
*There is a proposal to skip the discussion. There is a formal opposition to skip the discussion.
 
*There is a question about what the candidates think about finances and the budget.
 
*There is a question remotely: "What is your stance on wikileaks and their alleged collusion with the trump campaign? Do you see Julian Assange's credibility still intact"
 
:(Proceedural order that online participants need to watch the stream and not the Zoom for sound.)
 
*Voting is done by ballots. They will be distributed to the representatives. For those not present, proxies will be provided to make your votes.
 
*The Chairperson clarified the rules of voting. In the event of a tie there is a runoff between those people. To be elected a person needs a majority of yes votes. 7 majority is needed.
 
*Voting is accepted until 12:20.
 
*Numbered candidates; (Sponsor) Member Party
:1. Magnus Andersson (NO) PPSE
:2. Sven Clement (DE) PPLX
:3. Stanley Cohen (NO) US
:4. Etienne Evellin (NO/FR) PPFR
:5. Thomas Gaul (DE) PPDE
:6. Michal Gill (CZ) PPCZ
:7  Kitty Hundal (NO) Canada
:8. Alexander Isavnin (DE)
:9. Ladislav Koubek (CZ) PPCZ
:10. Cédric Levieux (FR) PPFR
:11. Adam Wolf (DE) PPDE
 
*Voting List
 
*Norway
:1.Magnus Andersson - yes
:2.Sven Clement - no
:3,Stanley Cohen - yes
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - no
:6.Michal Gill - yes
:7.Kitty Hundal - yes
:8.Alexander Isavnin - no
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - no
:11.Adam Wolf - no
 
*Internet Party New Zealand
:1.Magnus Andersson - yes
:2.Sven Clement - no
:3,Stanley Cohen - yes
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - no
:6.Michal Gill - yes
:7.Kitty Hundal - yes
:8.Alexander Isavnin - no
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - no
:11.Adam Wolf - no
 
*Pirate Party of Luxembourg
:1.Magnus Andersson - yes
:2.Sven Clement - yes
:3,Stanley Cohen - yes
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - yes
:6.Michal Gill - yes
:7.Kitty Hundal - yes
:8.Alexander Isavnin - yes
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - yes
:11.Adam Wolf - yes
 
*Brazil
:1.Magnus Andersson - abstain
:2.Sven Clement - abstain
:3,Stanley Cohen - abstain
:4.Etienne Evellin - abstain
:5.Thomas Gaul - abstain
:6.Michal Gill - abstain
:7.Kitty Hundal - abstain
:8.Alexander Isavnin - abstain
:9.Ladislav Koubek - abstain
:10.Cédric Levieux - abstain
:11.Adam Wolf - abstain
 
*Czech
:1.Magnus Andersson - yes
:2.Sven Clement - yes
:3,Stanley Cohen - yes
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - yes
:6.Michal Gill - yes
:7.Kitty Hundal - yes
:8.Alexander Isavnin - yes
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - yes
:11.Adam Wolf - yes
 
*Israel
:1.Magnus Andersson - no
:2.Sven Clement - no
:3,Stanley Cohen - no
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - yes
:6.Michal Gill - no
:7.Kitty Hundal - yes
:8.Alexander Isavnin - no
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - yes
:11.Adam Wolf - no
 
*Russia
:1.Magnus Andersson - abstain
:2.Sven Clement - no
:3,Stanley Cohen - no
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - no
:6.Michal Gill - yes
:7.Kitty Hundal - no
:8.Alexander Isavnin -yes
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - yes
:11.Adam Wolf - no
 
*Portugal
:1.Magnus Andersson - yes
:2.Sven Clement - yes
:3,Stanley Cohen - yes
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - yes
:6.Michal Gill - yes
:7.Kitty Hundal - yes
:8.Alexander Isavnin - yes
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - yes
:11.Adam Wolf - yes
 
*France
:1.Magnus Andersson - no
:2.Sven Clement - no
:3,Stanley Cohen - no
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - no
:6.Michal Gill - no
:7.Kitty Hundal - yes
:8.Alexander Isavnin - no
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - yes
:11.Adam Wolf - yes
 
*Tunisia
:1.Magnus Andersson - no
:2.Sven Clement - no
:3,Stanley Cohen - no
:4.Etienne Evellin - no
:5.Thomas Gaul - yes
:6.Michal Gill - no
:7.Kitty Hundal - yes
:8.Alexander Isavnin - no
:9.Ladislav Koubek - no
:10.Cédric Levieux - yes
:11.Adam Wolf - no
 
*Austria
:1.Magnus Andersson - yes
:2.Sven Clement - yes
:3,Stanley Cohen - abstain
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - yes
:6.Michal Gill - yes
:7.Kitty Hundal - no
:8.Alexander Isavnin - abstain
:9.Ladislav Koubek - abstain
:10.Cédric Levieux - yes
:11.Adam Wolf - yes
 
*Netherlands
:1.Magnus Andersson - yes
:2.Sven Clement - no
:3,Stanley Cohen - no
:4.Etienne Evellin - no
:5.Thomas Gaul - no
:6.Michal Gill - yes
:7.Kitty Hundal - yes
:8.Alexander Isavnin - no
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - yes
:11.Adam Wolf - no
 
*Switzerland
:1.Magnus Andersson - no
:2.Sven Clement - no
:3,Stanley Cohen - no
:4.Etienne Evellin - yes
:5.Thomas Gaul - yes
:6.Michal Gill - no
:7.Kitty Hundal - no
:8.Alexander Isavnin - no
:9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
:10.Cédric Levieux - no
:11.Adam Wolf - no
 
*Germany
:1.Magnus Andersson - no
:2.Sven Clement - yes
:3,Stanley Cohen - no
:4.Etienne Evellin - no
:5.Thomas Gaul - yes
:6.Michal Gill - yes
:7.Kitty Hundal - no
:8.Alexander Isavnin - yes
:9.Ladislav Koubek - no
:10.Cédric Levieux - no
:11.Adam Wolf - yes
 
 
*Etienne Evellin and Ladislav Koubek are elected with 10 votes each
 
*Cédric Levieux, Michal Gill, and Kitty Hundal are in a run-off with 9 votes each.
 
*We are having a run-off vote. Each party is allowed one yes vote for either Cédric Levieux, Michal Gill, and Kitty Hundal
 
Votes for Run-off (Yes votes of each party will be written after the person's name)
*Cédric Levieux:Austria, Israel,
*Michal Gill : Norway, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Czech, Germany,
*Kitty Hundal : Tunisia, France, INPZ, Switzerland,
*Other (no, abstain, spoiled ballots and such): Portugal, Brazil,
 
*Michal Gill has 5 votes.
*Kitty Hundal has 4 votes
*Cedric has 2 votes
*Michal Gill wins the run-off vote
 
*The new members of the board are Etienne Evellin, Ladislav Koubek, and Michal Gill
 
===Election of  Alternate board members===
 
:Comment that the current rules are stupid. We cannot change them, but in the future it would be good to decide the alternates based on the election for the board members.
 
:Point of order. We have nominations on Discourse that were perhaps not recognized. PPDE sponsored Denis Simonet (PPCH), Stefan Thöni (PPCH) for CoA. They are not on the list. We also have a last minute nomination on Zoom of PPTN to nominate Chemseddine Ben Jemaa as an Alternate Board member and the CoA, but we should confirm if a bio is on Discourse.
 
:Additional point of order: There is motion to skip the presentation of candidates.
 
:There is a request of Kitty and Cedric to be alternates, supported by France.
 
*We need two alternate board members, as one alternate board members was elected to the board.
 
*Voting accepted by email
 
* Candidates:
:Adam Wolf - accepts
:Bastian Krone - no
:Thomas Gaul- accepts
:Markéta Gregorová- no
:Chemseddine Ben Jemaa - accepts
:Kitty Hundal - accepts
:Cédric Levieux - accepts
 
*List of candidates:
   
*1.Adam Wolf
*2.Thomas Gaul
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa
*4.Kitty Hundal
*5.Cédric Levieux
 
*Voting Table:
Internet Party Of New Zealand (1/2 vote)   
*1.Adam Wolf no
*2.Thomas Gaul yes
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
*4.Kitty Hundal yes
*5.Cédric Levieux  yes
 
Russia
*1.Adam Wolf  no
*2.Thomas Gaul no
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  no
*4.Kitty Hundal no
*5.Cédric Levieux yes
 
Portugal
*1.Adam Wolf yes
*2.Thomas Gaul yes
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa yes
*4.Kitty Hundal yes
*5.Cédric Levieux  yes
 
Luxembourgh
*1.Adam Wolf no
*2.Thomas Gaul no
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
*4.Kitty Hundal yes
*5.Cédric Levieux no
 
Austria
*1.Adam Wolf  yes
*2.Thomas Gaul yes
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  abstain
*4.Kitty Hundal  no
*5.Cédric Levieux  yes
 
Brazil
*1.Adam Wolf  abstain
*2.Thomas Gaul  abstain
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  abstain
*4.Kitty Hundal  abstain
*5.Cédric Levieux  abstain
 
Tunisia
*1.Adam Wolf  abstain
*2.Thomas Gaul  abstain
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  abstain
*4.Kitty Hundal  yes
*5.Cédric Levieux  abstain
 
Czech Republic
*1.Adam Wolf  no
*2.Thomas Gaul  no
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  no
*4.Kitty Hundal  yes
*5.Cédric Levieux  no
 
France
*1.Adam Wolf  yes
*2.Thomas Gaul  no
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  no
*4.Kitty Hundal  yes
*5.Cédric Levieux  yes
 
Germany
*1.Adam Wolf  yes
*2.Thomas Gaul  yes
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  abstain
*4.Kitty Hundal  no
*5.Cédric Levieux  no
 
Norway
*1.Adam Wolf  no
*2.Thomas Gaul  yes
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  no
*4.Kitty Hundal  yes
*5.Cédric Levieux  yes
 
The Netherlands
*1.Adam Wolf  no
*2.Thomas Gaul  no
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  no
*4.Kitty Hundal  yes
*5.Cédric Levieux  yes
 
Switzerland
*1.Adam Wolf  no
*2.Thomas Gaul  yes
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  no
*4.Kitty Hundal  yes
*5.Cédric Levieux  no
 
Israel
*1.Adam Wolf  no
*2.Thomas Gaul  yes
*3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa  no
*4.Kitty Hundal  yes
*5.Cédric Levieux  yes
 
*Elected alternate board members are: 1. Kitty Hundal and 2. Cédric Levieux.
 
 
===Election of Court of Arbitration===
* Candidates:
 
:Adam Wolf (PPDE)
:Bastian Krone (PPDE)
:Thomas Gaul (PPDE)
:Markéta Gregorová (PPCZ)- no
:Ohad Shem Tov  (PPIL)
:Marek Nečada (PPCZ)
:Denis Simonet (PPCH)
:<del>Stefan Thöni (PPCH)</del> Rejected confirmation and requested to be removed.
 
:With 7 candidates, it is proposed that we allow all 7 to be members of the CoA. There are no other proposals. There are no objections to the 7 candidates. Therefore, we accept all 7 candidates. We will vote though on all candidates.
 
Do you accept these candidates to the Court of Arbitration?
 
1. :Adam Wolf (PPDE)
2. :Bastian Krone (PPDE)
3. :Thomas Gaul (PPDE)
4. :Ohad Shem Tov  (PPIL)
5. :Marek Nečada (PPCZ)
6. :Denis Simonet (PPCHs)
7. :Stefan Thöni (PPCH)
 
* Pirate Party Austria - Yes
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - Abstain
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 0
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - Yes
* Parti  Pirate France - Abstain
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - Yes
* Pirate Party Israel - Yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - Abstain
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - Yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
* Pirate Party Poland - 0
* Partido Pirata Portugues - Yes
* Pirate Party Russia - 0
* Pirate Party Switzerland - Yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - Abstain
 
:The vote is accepted with 9 votes of yes (8.5 tallied), 4 Abstain, and 0 Nos.
 
:Congratulations to all 7 candidates who are now members of the Court of Arbitration.
:immediately following the GA Stephan Thoni indicated that he did not confirm his nomination and requested to be removed from the court, so there are six members of the CoA.
 
===Election of Lay Auditors===
 
* Candidates:
 
:Pat Maechler (PPCH)
:Ohad Bar Siman Tov (PPIL)
:Marek Nečada -no
:Ohad Shem Tov  - no
 
*Proposal that we vote on the two candidates and add a third Lay Auditor at a later date.
 
Initial list of candidates:
:Pat Maechler
:Ohad Bar Siman Tov
 
*There is a motion to reopen the list of candidates.
*PPFR nominates Nicolas Petitdemange
 
Final list of candidates:
:Pat Maechler
:Ohad Bar Siman Tov
:Nicolas Petitdemange
 
*We have three candidates for three positions. There was a proposal to skip the individual voting and vote on all three on each.
*There is a motion to skip the discussion. Does anyone oppose? Motion carries.
 
 
*Do you elect these Candidates as Lay Auditors?
 
* Pirate Party Austria -Yes
* Partido Pirata do Brasil -  Abs
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 0
* Pirate Party Czech Republic -Yes
* Parti  Pirate France - Yes
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - Yes
* Pirate Party Israel - Yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - Abstain
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - Yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
* Pirate Party Poland - 0
* Partido Pirata Portugues - Yes
* Pirate Party Russia - 0
* Pirate Party Switzerland - Yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - Yes
 
*Voting closes with 11 Yes votes (10.5 tallied), 2 Abstains, and Zero Nos.
 
==Schedule Changes==
*Point of order by the Netherlands to continue the agenda for day two at a later date
:Does anyone object to dropping panel discussion and motions?
:PPDE opposes to dropping the motions. They need to happen today.
 
:No one objects to dropping the panel discussion, so it is officially dropped from the agenda.
 
Should we drop the motions from the agenda?
Yes, drop the motions.
No, don't drop the motions.
 
* Pirate Party Austria -yes
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abstain
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 0
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - yes
* Parti  Pirate France - yes
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - no
* Pirate Party Israel - abstain
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - yes
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - yes
* Pirate Party Poland - 0
* Partido Pirata Portugues - abstain
* Pirate Party Russia - 0
* Pirate Party Switzerland - yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - abstain
 
There was a vote of 8 yes votes (7.5 tallies), 1 no, and 4 abstains.
 
:There is a statement that we should not close the GA but continue online at a later point.
:There is a counter argument that we should close the GA to confirm decisions made and hold an online GA within 90 days.
 
:Does anyone oppose the counter motion?
:Austria opposes the counter motion.
:PPDE indicates that the proposal is non-sensical, as we have dropped the motions from the agenda.
:There is an argument that the motions need to be in the GA and not speeches.
:There are two options keeping the GA open today and continuing at a later date online?
:PPDE opposes this.
 
:Option 1: Don't end the GA today, continue with the "Motions" on the agenda at a later time;
:Sub clausses; What time and place?
:<Regarding Option 1 if we don't end the board meeting today, then when should we have the continuation?>
 
If we dont end the GA today, when shall it continue?
Option 1. Saturday December 8, 10:00 AM  CET
Option 2. Sunday December 9 10:00 AM CET
Option 3. Saturday 10 November 13:00 pm CET
 
* Pirate Party Austria - 1,3
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abstain
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - nothing
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - 2,3,
* Parti  Pirate France - 1
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - 2
* Pirate Party Israel - 3
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - 2,3
* Pirate Party Netherlands - 2
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - 1,3
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - 1,3
* Pirate Party Poland - 0
* Partido Pirata Portugues - abstain
* Pirate Party Russia - 0
* Pirate Party Switzerland - 1,2
* Pirate Party Tunisia - abstain
 
Votes for 1: 4.5
Votes for 2: 5
Votes for 3: 5.5
abstain: 3
 
:Option 3 carries.
 
Option 1: Don't end the GA today, continue Saturday 10 November 13:00 pm CET with the "Motions" on the agenda .
Option 2: End the GA Today, task the Board  with setting up another GA that will take place online.
   
* Pirate Party Austria - 1
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abstain
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 0
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - 1
* Parti  Pirate France - 1
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - 1,2
* Pirate Party Israel - 1
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - 1
* Pirate Party Netherlands - 1
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - 1
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - 1
* Pirate Party Poland - 0
* Partido Pirata Portugues - abstain
* Pirate Party Russia - 0
* Pirate Party Switzerland - 2
* Pirate Party Tunisia - 2
 
:Votes for 1: 8.5
:Votes fo 2: 3
:Abstains: 2
 
:Option 1 was selected with most votes "to not end the GA today and continue Saturday 10 November 13:00 pm CET with the "Motions" on the agenda ".
 
Nobody oposed selected option 1, so it is aproved:
:We will not end the GA today. We will continue on Saturday 10 November 13:00 pm CET with the Motions.
 
*Amended Agenda for Nov. 10, 2018:
0. Opening (6.11. 10:00)
Opening speech (hosts of PP Bavaria)
Formalities;
chair, proxy, minutukeepers...
delegates recognition
quorum
members and voting rights
agenda approval
1. Keynote speech by Naomi Colvin - "Aaron's Law and Other Unfinished Business" (6.11. 11:45)
Slites Noami
2. Organs Report
2.1. Board
2.2. Treasurer
2.3. Lay Auditors
2.4. Court of Arbitration
2.5. Tech Team
3. Speech by Markéta Gregorova - "Success in Czechia" (6.11. 14:15)
Slites Markéta
4. Statutes Amendments
5. Elections of PPI officers
(End of day one - 6.11. 18:45)
(Reopening - 7.11. 9:00)
[Continuation of Elections]
6. PPFR - Demo Congressus (7.11. 10:15)
7. Speech by Adam Wolf - " 'Cemetery Mediterranean Sea'; EU's responsibilities and opportunities" (7.11. 15.30)
8. Speech by Barrett Brown - "Pursuance" (7.11. 17:00)
(End of day two - 7.11. 17:45)
(Start of day three - 10. 11. 13:00)
9. Other motions
 
 
==Speech by Adam Wolf - " 'Cemetery Mediterranean Sea'; EU's responsibilities and opportunities"==
*Prior to the speech thanks made by Chairperson Guillaume Saouli thanking outgoing board member Thomas Gaul for his service to the board.
 
:Adam is a captain of rescue vessels around the world. He is a journalist and a sailor to help people from drowning and writing and talking about it.
:There are certain routes that are deadly traps and hundreds die daily in floating coffins. Boats are often shipped in from China. Many must donate organs and undergo horrors. Many state if you bring me back, I would rather die.
:Many political parties are voting to not prevent this.
:Pirates need to work to make safe harbors. We mus share. Europe's future is Africa. We are neighbors, and there has to be integration. Europe cannot simply benefit from Africa's wealth without investing in local infrastructure. We produce refugees everyday.
:We should get our own ship and name it after our NGO. He suggests fundraising to save these poor souls.
:We are getting stronger and we are many. We should show our Pirate power and what it can bring.
:At the UN we need to declare in a loud and public way that we are internationalists. We are not supporting the idea of national states. We need to unite and declare that everyone is the same. Everyone counts.
:Civil rescue organizations were left with their own boats. They brought people ashore. The Maltese government did a mean trick and declared registration papers not valid to stop the boats. For a long time there was no possibility to save anyone. There are now two boats out there, and one more boat is on the way. They can only do so much. There is a requirement to save people and bring them ashore. You need to bring them in to a safe harbor, which is a place where people are not in danger of torture, death, etc. It is a legal definition. The Maltese violated these international treaties and said the boats were illegal.
:What is your experience with Frontex? He has several experiences with Frontex forces, most of whom were quite hostile. It is supposed to be the doorstep protector of Europe. It is a force to prevent people from coming to Europe.
:How do you argue with those who state NGOs (you) are engaged in human trafficking? Rescuing people is a basic human law, and it is included in treaties. If you see a car accident and don't stop it is a crime. The same thing happens in the sea. Someone is in a state of emergency. Perhaps they fell from a cruiseliner. It doesn't matter why they are in this human situation. You don't ask someone who has been in a car accident how they got there. You bring them to an ambulance.
 
===Speech by Adam Wolf - " 'Cemetery Mediterranean Sea'; EU's responsibilities and opportunities"===
*Prior to the speech thanks made by Chairperson Guillaume Saouli thanking outgoing board member Thomas Gaul for his service to the board.
 
:Adam is a captain of rescue vessels around the world. He is a journalist and a sailor to help people from drowning and writing and talking about it.
:There are certain routes that are deadly traps and hundreds die daily in floating coffins. Boats are often shipped in from China. Many must donate organs and undergo horrors. Many state if you bring me back, I would rather die.
:Many political parties are voting to not prevent this.
:Pirates need to work to make safe harbors. We mus share. Europe's future is Africa. We are neighbors, and there has to be integration. Europe cannot simply benefit from Africa's wealth without investing in local infrastructure. We produce refugees everyday.
:We should get our own ship and name it after our NGO. He suggests fundraising to save these poor souls.
:We are getting stronger and we are many. We should show our Pirate power and what it can bring.
:At the UN we need to declare in a loud and public way that we are internationalists. We are not supporting the idea of national states. We need to unite and declare that everyone is the same. Everyone counts.
:Civil rescue organizations were left with their own boats. They brought people ashore. The Maltese government did a mean trick and declared registration papers not valid to stop the boats. For a long time there was no possibility to save anyone. There are now two boats out there, and one more boat is on the way. They can only do so much. There is a requirement to save people and bring them ashore. You need to bring them in to a safe harbor, which is a place where people are not in danger of torture, death, etc. It is a legal definition. The Maltese violated these international treaties and said the boats were illegal.
:What is your experience with Frontex? He has several experiences with Frontex forces, most of whom were quite hostile. It is supposed to be the doorstep protector of Europe. It is a force to prevent people from coming to Europe.
:How do you argue with those who state NGOs (you) are engaged in human trafficking? Rescuing people is a basic human law, and it is included in treaties. If you see a car accident and don't stop it is a crime. The same thing happens in the sea. Someone is in a state of emergency. Perhaps they fell from a cruiseliner. It doesn't matter why they are in this human situation. You don't ask someone who has been in a car accident how they got there. You bring them to an ambulance.
 
==Speech by Barrett Brown about Pursuance Project https://pursuanceproject.org/==
:Democracy has had to be institutional. There were no other options. Given the trends in the West in our lifetimes, democracy from here on will have to be less institutional. It will be global in character, proceedural. Defined by association, to associate and not associate as one chooses. One can in the modern day, the unique modern day, we can reach out to others wherever they are to find out about our common interests and actually build structures and networks to bring our values into the mainstream and establish them. We have scattered around the planet, havens for liberty, where you are safe from censorship and more. We cannot guarantee that this will continue. Americans are learning this. Establishing these democracies does not mean that they will exist forever. All of these structures are only as strong as the citizens who are holding them up. There is no reason we shouldn't expect that the liberal democracy should exist with a sane structure. Seams are showing and they are obvious that even those in the establishment know that they are broken. Fascists and alt-right have succeeded incredibly such that they have reached the White House. They remind us what the internet can do. The alt right comes from 4 chan, which also gave rise to a left wing movement known as Anonymous. This group started as a trolling group and should not have necessarily turned into an activist group. It became a very exact network, which reached the Arab Spring in Tunisia and serious events. It burned out after its early success. Today it is nothing more than some FB pages. There was nothing holding it up. It had agility, which was a strength, but it had no charter. It disappeared. We engaged in crowdsourcing. We know from 2011-2 the investigations into hidden sectors, that these things are vital. They come about by accident some times, and they disappear. We wondered could we create something that it could maintain strength, incorporate people at an exponential rate.
:Whoever solves this problem will be dominant and have the lead. It is important that we do this, because we have a short amount of time. We are not the only ones talking about creating viable, expanding internet activities. Pursuance is an organization based in the US that I founded. We have a number of interesting people involved. Birgitta Johnsdotter, Naomi Colvin, John Keriack? who named the CIA secret torture program and went to jail, academics, prominent lawyer Jay Lederman,  Raymond Johansen, and a great core team. Most of the people are working for free. We recently raised about 40000 dollars through Kickstarter. Everyone who opposes the drug war, the police state, they may disagree on a number of other issues, but they collaborate to decide on how the movement can get back on its feat. Pursuance will be a visualized room for civic engagement. You will have a piece of software, once you are accepted into the system. It is an open source system.
:The strength of this process is the ability for people with shared ideas all to join a shared sector and slowly start building these networks that will allow us to move forward. We have had 25 applicants. Of these most will get in. They will respond in a paragraph answer, and accepted unless they write something obscure. This number will expand, as each will bring in new people, and it will thus expand exponentially.
:Let's discuss Redit. These were early adapaters in 2006, a subset of people. They were relatively well informed and with good technical knowledge. They are a demographic that is more suited than a random sample. This becomes one of the greatest sources of information. People are commenting and vetting things in real time. It allows the most useful comments to float to the top. Over time the criteria for joining changes, and the population changes. The later users change. The barriers decrease to include more people from around the world. I considered how can we create something that has the same values but allows it to bring in more people over time. How can we do this without worrying about what will happen in five years time. There are a number of answers. One is that we hand selected the first users. We can expect that the people that they bring on will have high values. Even if that doesn't happen, if we succumb to the realities of mass mobilization, with suddenly alt-right and deranged, that is not a problem for Pursuance. You are not encumbered by the totality of whose there.
:In an amorphous grouping of people you can't make value judgments in a way to prevent such people from coming in. Instead you have operators who are keeping the thing from becoming a cesspool. It is a more threatening danger. It is a problem. In the 1960s the civil rights movements came together, the way they came together is the reason that they fell down. A great deal of Pursuance, besides the process democracy, is reducing these problems. Freedom of association allows individuals to build their own structures, decide how this organization will govern and grow. It eliminates who has power and why. All of these elements have influence. Will it be a pseudo democracy? What will they vote on? All of these things are left to the management. No one is ever part of something that they don't entirely understand. The facility and access to create their own institutions, make them more democratic.
:Since this is not being applied to anyone, there is no question of power or authority. The power is entirely with the individual user. You have over time Pursuances that are finding their way forward, figuring out how to facilitate when internet is cut off, whatever the issue is, environmental regulation, etc. People will have the opportunity to experiment and grow. Each of these individual Pursuances on their own, that would be good enough. The great thing about this would be your group would be able to work in other groups. Because of these barriers, these things don't happen. Imagine if every activist group knew what every other activist group was doing. They could collaborate, maintain independence. It would be a different world. Pursuance will be that structure if you are starting a campaign or a political organization. You can develop this collaboration in hours rather than months.
:The founder of the Pirate Party once said something interesting, Rich Falvinge. Your problem is not that you don't have people, it's that people want to work for you for free, but you won't let them. The people haven't been brought in. The people have to be allowed to find others. We have to have all of these brick and morter groups in the same place. We need institutions and procedures all asking a universal space to go their own way, but to facilitate what we have done. :Historically we could not be having this conversation. I could not be here in the US on probation and unable to leave and still be able to address foreign members of a political party. It's obvious that Twitter and many of these things did not exist. Obvious things can be overlooked, once we get comfortable with them. We risk losing sight of what it really is. You loose your ability. For the most part human history was largely the same. The people you are collaborating with... The French long ago if they had telepathic abilities to communicate with the other side of the world, it would have changed the world. The fact that geography is no longer a limiting factor, that is the largest thing to change society. We will only later realize how much change. There is a lag between technology and people who use it. In 2018 it is time for people in the Pirate society to take the next step and help us get the Pursuance project established around the world.
:Institutional democracy is not going anywhere, but it is not the future. Democracy that matters over time was created for us without our consent. Proceedural democracy over time as we bring in more people, who didn't look into the problem, as we expand our base of support... that will become more powerful. I'm talking about real power to prevent these criminal agencies that currently control most of the globe, that will keep them more in check. This is an age where the not so greats are coming together. It is hard to consider how nation states can be held to account. It is hard to imagine.  Pursuance is about to update its website with more information. Anyone who has any questions, please contact me at barrettbrown@Protonmail.com
 
:Question about when it will be ready. Answer is I'm not sure, because we won't release until we are absolutely ready. It should be done next year.
:Question about is there a way to get back the internet. Answer is that we need to use the infrastructure.
:Our core team over time will still be bringing in individuals over time, but the vast number will be other individuals who bring in others. Over time though our agency diminishes.
 
==To Be Continued on Nov. 10, 2018 at 10:00==
 
== Motions, Amendments==
 
(For now there are four motions in Discourse :
 
*6.1 Special Comittee for the revision of Statutes ===
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/special-commission-for-the-revision-of-the-statutes/84
Name of the motion : Special Commiittee for the revision of Statutes (presented by the PPFR)
 
Presentation of the motion : The purpose of this motion is to set up a special committee whose mission is to propose a global and coherent revision of the statutes and rules of procedure. Currently, the link between the Board and the members is not perfect and it is necessary to create a more dynamic relationship.
In addition, yesterday’s failed motions proved that if motions are not prepared collectively, they are more likely to fail when a large majority is required.
 
Body of the motion :
A. The GA requires the creation of a special committee to propose at the general meeting of 2019 an overall revision of the statutes and rules of procedure.
B. This commission will be composed of the delegates of the voluntary members to take part in this revision, of the members of the Board mandated for this purpose. It will be chaired by the President of the PPI or a person elected by the Board. This person may or may not be a member of the Board.
C. The Board must establish the composition of the commission before March 31, 2019 and convene the first meeting before April 30, 2019.
D. At its first meeting, the committee will define its rules of procedure and a timetable for its work, which must be approved by an absolute majority of its members.
 
===*6.2 New vote tool : Congressus===
: PPFR proposes the use of Congressus for the management of meetings and votes within PPI.
Body of the motion :
A. The GA asks to the Board to install Congressus as the new application for the management of meetings and votes.
B. This installation must be effective in order to use Congressus for the 2019 GA.
C. The GA asks the board to prepare a revision of the GA Rules of Procedures in order to adapt them to the use of Congressus.
Support : PPFR
 
:Discussion
 
:Votes
* Pirate Party Austria -
* Partido Pirata do Brasil -
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
* Pirate Party Czech Republic -
* Parti  Pirate France -
* Piratenpartei Deutschland -
* Pirate Party Israel - 
* Pirate Party Luxembourg -
* Pirate Party Netherlands -
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) -
* Piratpartiet (Norway) -
* Pirate Party Poland -
* Partido Pirata Portugues -
* Pirate Party Russia -
* Pirate Party Switzerland -
* Pirate Party Tunisia -
 
==6.3 New vote tool : Congressus==
 
Name of the motion : New vote tool : Congressus (presented by PPFR)
 
Presentation of the motion : This motion is to ask the Board to set up Congressus for the management of meetings and votes within the PPI.
 
Body of the motion : The GA adopts this resolution :
A. The GA asks to the Board to install Congressus as the new application for the management of meetings and votes.
B. This installation must be effective in order to use Congressus for the 2019 GA.
C. The GA asks the board to prepare a revision of the GA Rules of Procedures in order to adapt them to the use of Congressus.
 
:Discussion
 
:Votes
* Pirate Party Austria -
* Partido Pirata do Brasil -
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
* Pirate Party Czech Republic -
* Parti  Pirate France -
* Piratenpartei Deutschland -
* Pirate Party Israel - 
* Pirate Party Luxembourg -
* Pirate Party Netherlands -
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) -
* Piratpartiet (Norway) -
* Pirate Party Poland -
* Partido Pirata Portugues -
* Pirate Party Russia -
* Pirate Party Switzerland -
* Pirate Party Tunisia -
 
==6.4 Financial proposal==
    - https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/financial-proposal/76
 
Presentation of the motion : Get rid of the 20% rule for affiliation fees (Presented by the PPDE)
 
Body of the motion :
‘‘Amend:’’
Rules for Affiliation fees Calculation were adopted at the online General Assembly meeting on march 2015Decisons_of_GA#online_General_Assembly_march_2015:
Calculation of Affiliation Fees:
The actual HDI [1] of a country is taken as an exponent to 50 to get the basis fee in €.
This basis fee is multiplied by following factors:
for each elected pirate on national level times two,
for each elected member of a regional parliament times 1/5,
and for each elected member on a local level times 1/10.
These multiplied values are then added to the basis fee.
 
For the calculation it is non-discriminatory if a pirate is holding a mandate in the executive or legislative branch.Affiliation fee shall not excess 1% of the member’s annual income for the previous financial year.Observer membership is not associated with any costs. No member shall contribute more then 20% of all PPI’s due fees. The first fees are due the next financial year[2016]. This calculation of Affiliation Fees is valid for following years unless decided otherwise.
 
‘‘to’’
 
Rules for Affiliation fees Calculation were adopted at the online General Assembly meeting on march 2015Decisons_of_GA#online_General_Assembly_march_2015:
Calculation of Affiliation Fees:
The actual HDI[1] of a country is taken as an exponent to 50 to get the basis fee in €.
This basis fee is multiplied by following factors:
for each elected pirate on national level times two,
for each elected member of a regional parliament times 1/5,
and for each elected member on a local level times 1/10.
These multiplied values are then added to the basis fee.
 
For the calculation it is non-discriminatory if a pirate is holding a mandate in the executive or legislative branch. Affiliation fee shall not excess 1% of the member’s annual income for the previous financial year. Observer membership is not associated with any costs. The first fees are due the next financial year [2016]. This calculation of Affiliation Fees is valid for following years unless decided otherwise.
This rule applies ex tunc from 01.01.2018.
 
:Discussion
 
:Votes
* Pirate Party Austria -
* Partido Pirata do Brasil -
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
* Pirate Party Czech Republic -
* Parti  Pirate France -
* Piratenpartei Deutschland -
* Pirate Party Israel - 
* Pirate Party Luxembourg -
* Pirate Party Netherlands -
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) -
* Piratpartiet (Norway) -
* Pirate Party Poland -
* Partido Pirata Portugues -
* Pirate Party Russia -
* Pirate Party Switzerland -
* Pirate Party Tunisia -
 
 
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==TOP 0 Opening of the Third Day of the General Assembly==
 
===Formalities ===
 
* [13:00 CET] Meeting opened at 13:00 by Guillaume
:Recording started by Roland (PPAT) at 13:00
 
* Chair of the meeting: Vojtech Pikal
*Cochairs: Guillaume Saouli, Bailey Lamon
* Secretaries of the meeting: Rico Brouwer, Keith Goldstein
*  Vote Tallier/Ballot Counter: Raymond Johansan, Thomas Gaul
 
 
 
====Countries Present====
 
* Pirate Party Austria - Present
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - Present
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - Present by Proxy(PPCH)
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - Present
* Parti  Pirate France - Present
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - Present
* Pirate Party Israel - Present
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - proxy (Bailey,PWB)
* Pirate Party Netherlands - Present
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) -  Present by Proxy (PPNO)
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - Present
* Pirate Party Poland -
* Partido Pirata Portugues -
* Pirate Party Russia -  Present
* Pirate Party Switzerland -  Present
* Pirate Party Tunisia - Present
* Pirate Party of Slovakia - Present by proxy(PPCZ)
 
:Number of Ordinary members: 38
Voting power of all members: 36
:Count Present or represented: 15
:Voting power present or represented: 14
:Ordinary members needed to be present: 13
:Voting power needed to be present: 12
 
*Are there any parties present who were not present at the prior GA? 1) PP Slovakia by Proxy
*Are there any parties not present who delegated their vote to another member? 1) PP Slovakia, 2) INPZ, 3) Catalonia, 4) Luxembourg
 
*Quorum is established with 14 present votes out of 36 votes.
 
*Outline for the Conference
:https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018
 
 
===Agenda===
:https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018/ProposedAgenda
 
*Valid agenda that was approved by the GA
* 0. Opening (6.11. 10:00)
* 9. Other motions
 
*Proposed Revised Agenda
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/motion-to-amend-nov-10th-agenda/91
:1. Opening formalities
:2. Budget 2019 https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/2018-ga-budget-revised-from-annual-report-and-treasurers-statement/88/2
<Needs to be updated on Discourse with the revised numbers.>
:3. Financial proposal: Get rid of the 20% rule for affiliation fees
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/financial-proposal/76
:4. Counter Proposal to capping removal (originating from the Board)
Yet to be published in Discourse
:5. New vote tool : Congressus for PPI
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/new-vote-tool-congressus/82
:6. Any other business/open mic/information items
::-- International coordination meetings, an information item by Bailey Lamon
::-- Standing Committee for the revision of Statutes https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/special-commission-for-the-revision-of-the-statutes/84
::-- Standing Committee for ECOSOC and International NGO activities https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/standing-committee-for-ecosoc-and-international-ngo-activities/85
:7. Closing of the GA
 
:Note that the Congressus proposal was removed as a motion, but it will still be an agenda item.
 
Proposed agenda change of point "9. Other motions":
   
9.1. Budget 2019 https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/2018-ga-budget-revised-from-annual-report-and-treasurers-statement/88/2
<Needs to be updated on Discourse with the revised numbers.>
9.2 Affiliation fees proposals
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/financial-proposal/76
9.3.  New vote tool : Congressus for PPI
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/new-vote-tool-congressus/82
9.4. Any other business/open mic/information items
::-- International coordination meetings, an information item by Bailey Lamon
::-- Standing Committee for the revision of Statutes https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/special-commission-for-the-revision-of-the-statutes/84
::-- Standing Committee for ECOSOC and International NGO activities https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/standing-committee-for-ecosoc-and-international-ngo-activities/85
Closing of the GA
 
*Does the GA accepted by consensus the revised agenda for Day Three of the GA? There were no objections.
 
13:23 -
==9.1. Budget 2019==
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/2018-ga-budget-revised-from-annual-report-and-treasurers-statement/88/2
:Details of charges are included.
:We have not received most of the membership fees for 2017 (due in 2018). This means that we are at a bare minimum for finances.
:Two versions and a counter motion are shown.
:Version 2 removes the cap. There is a removal of the affiliation fee. This proposal leave as 324 euro liability in the difference of revenue to expenses.
:The Counter Proposal includes a revisal of the expenses, such that '
:Question about why server costs are so high. Can we do something about it? The maintenance of the infrastructure is coming from a very old infrastructure. It took a year and a half to migrate. We made an agreement to service with the IT team that Bastian is running. They provide dedicated resources to cover the work, and we are not dependent on volunteers. The platform is the critical element that enables us to work.
:The budget is very much dependent on the income, so we are not sure if we can accept the budget, because it is highly dependent on the later motions regarding affiliation fees.
:Does anyone oppose to delay this vote on the budget? No opposotion is noted.
:
Discusion on budget closed, voting posponed after the point on affiliation fees.
 
== 9.2.Affiliation fees proposals ==
 
*3. Financial proposal: Get rid of the 20% rule for affiliation fees
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/financial-proposal/76
:PPDE presents this motion. PPDE hereby withdraws this proposal.
 
*Counter proposal by the board
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/2018-affiliation-fees-proposal-for-4-tier-fee-system/89/2
:The following proposal is based on a meeting of the Board. I do not propose this on behalf of my party but add it here, as requested by Board members. If you are in favor of this revision, please adopt the proposal as a motion on behalf of your member party.
:A proposal was made for a 4-Tier Membership Fee System. The Four Tiers are as follows: 1) Mature, 2) Established, 3) Emerging, 4) Nascent. Each member would have a distinct affiliation fee payment. The proposed fees listed for each tier are 1) 1000, 2) 250, 3) 100, and 4) 0 (presumably Euros).
::Mature members are those that receive regular state funding, collects member dues, have elected officials at state or regional level, and/or have elected officials at local level who receive compensation. (fill at least two)
::Established members are those that have paying members, run for elections on a regular basis, and have regular statutory activities such as general assemblies. (fill all)
::Emerging members collect donations, run statutory activities such as general assemblies, and run activism projects. (fill all)
::Nascent members have regular statutory activities, such as general assemblies and run activism projects. (fill all)
:::Mature would be 725 euros.
:::Established would be 185 euros.
:::Emerging would be 50 euros.
:::Nascent would be 0 euros.
 
*Additional Rules of the Motion
::Nascent parties would be considered Ordinary Members, but if they are not fulfilling their obligations for statutory activities then they would no longer be ordinary memberships.
::PPDE formally sponsors this motion instead of the original Financial proposal above.
::The fees will be in Euros.
::Access to service would not be related to access to services. The services are available to everyone.
::Discussion that for many members 50 euros will be a large amount.
:The affiliation fee rules decided at the 2015 GA indicates that "Affiliation fee shall not excess 1% of the member's annual income for the previous financial year."
https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=Decisons_of_GA#online_General_Assembly_march_2015
:It cannot remove the elimination of postponement or remission of payment as indicated in the statutes.
 
*Comments
:The difficulty we have is paying for the servers.
:"XVI. Affiliation Fees*
::(1) The amount of the fee is determined annually by the General Assembly.*
::(2) The affiliation fees and contributions shall be fixed in relation to the finances and membership of parties."
:We are not changing at statute rule. This is an internal rule.
:There is a difficulty of changing the statute that the membership fees should be fixed in relation to the finances of the members.
:How many member parties should we expect in each category? 6 mature, 8 established, 6-12 emerging, 10 nascent
 
*XI. Voting*
:(5) Any Ordinary Member which has failed to pay its annual affiliation fee up to and including the end of the fiscal year preceding the General Assembly meeting shall forfeit its right to vote at that meeting of the General Assembly, unless remission or postponement of dues has received prior authorization from the Board.
 
*Shall this motion remove the ability to enable remission or postponement of dues of any member?
*Shall we allow the motion to enable the party to pay dues in line with its own finances? Shall we allow a motion that the fees should not be greater than the annual income of the party?
 
This is proposal for member affiliation fees, it will remove all previous affiliation fee rules;
*Affiliation are made for a 4-Tier Membership Fee System. The Four Tiers are as follows: 1) Mature, 2) Established, 3) Emerging, 4) Nascent. Each member would have a distinct affiliation fee payment. No member shall pay more than 100% of their previous anual income.
::Mature members are Established members that also those that receive regular state funding, collects member dues, have elected officials at state or regional level, and/or have elected officials at local level who receive compensation. (fill at least two)
::Established members are Emerging members that also those that have paying members and run for elections on a regular basis,and have regular statutory activities such as general assemblies. (fill all)
::Emerging members are Nascent members that also collect donations, run statutory activities such as general assemblies, and run activism projects.(fill all)
::Nascent members have regular statutory activities, such as general assemblies and run activism projects. (fill all)
:::Mature would be 725 euros.
:::Established would be 185 euros.
:::Emerging would be 50 euros.
:::Nascent would be 0 euros.
 
Proposals to change fee categories
*Proposal by PPAT to add at least 2 elected members at any level to enable the 'established' category
:The proposee is asked if they agree. They agree to add this to the proposal if it includes the local level
*PPCH said that it should be at the "local level" and not any level.
 
lets vote on it;
Option 1: Who wants to add "and has at least two elected members"as requirement fo Established member (option one)?
Option 2: Who wants to add "and has at least two elected members at local level"as requirement fo Established member (option two)?
Option 3: Both
Option 4: Neither
 
* Pirate Party Austria -1
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abs
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - abs
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - abs
* Parti  Pirate France - neither
* Piratenpartei Deutschland -  neither
* Pirate Party Israel - 1 and 2
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - abs
* Pirate Party Netherlands - abs
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) -  2
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - neither
* Pirate Party Russia -  abst
* Pirate Party Switzerland -  2
* Pirate Party Tunisia - abs
* Pirate Party of Slovakia - abs
 
*Voting Tallies:
:Option 1: 2  Yes, 3 no, 8 abstains
:Option 2: 2.5 yes, 3 no , 8 abstains
 
:Option 2 is winning, but there are not enough votes made to confirm this vote. Should we create another vote or abstain as it will likely not pass on a second round. It is an unnecessary vote. No one requires a vote.
 
*Other proposals
**Proposal by INPZ to add the 1%(2%, 5%) rule back
:Comment that it should be 2% because 5% will be too much for some countries, and 1% will leave us in the red.
:Option 1: Who wants to change % in "No member shall pay more than 100% of their previous anual income" to 1%
:Option 2: Who wants to change % in "No member shall pay more than 100% of their previous anual income" to 2%
:Option 3: Who wants to change % in "No member shall pay more than 100% of their previous anual income" to 5%
 
* Pirate Party Austria - 2
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abst
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - abst
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - 2
* Parti  Pirate France - 3
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - 3
* Pirate Party Israel - 1,2,3
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - 2
* Pirate Party Netherlands - abst
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - 2
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - 2
* Pirate Party Russia - 2
* Pirate Party Switzerland - 3
* Pirate Party Tunisia - abst
* Pirate Party of Slovakia - 2
 
*Voting Tallies
:Option 1: 1 Yes, No 0, Abst 3.5
:Option 2: 7.5 Yes, 0 No, Abst. 3.5
:Option 3: 4 YES, No 0, Abst. 3.5
 
*Option 2 carries. We will vote to see if it carries into the full proposal.
:Who wants to change % in "No member shall pay more than 100% of their previous anual income" to 2%
 
* Pirate Party Austria - yes
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abs
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - abst
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - yes
* Parti  Pirate France - abst
* Piratenpartei Deutschland -  abst
* Pirate Party Israel - yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - abst
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) -  yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - yes
* Pirate Party Russia - yes
* Pirate Party Switzerland - yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - abst
* Pirate Party of Slovakia - yes
 
Voting Tally: 8.5 Yes, 0 No, and 6 Abstain
 
*This is proposal for member affiliation fees, it will remove all previous affiliation fee rules;
*Affiliation are made for a 4-Tier Membership Fee System. The Four Tiers are as follows: 1) Mature, 2) Established, 3) Emerging, 4) Nascent. Each member would have a distinct affiliation fee payment. No member shall pay more than 2% of their previous anual income.
::Mature members are Established members that also those that receive regular state funding,  have elected officials at state or regional level, and/or have elected officials at local level who receive compensation. (fill at least two)
::Established members are Emerging members that also have paying members and run for elections on a regular basis. (fill all)
::Emerging members are Nascent members that also collect donations. (fill all)
::Nascent members have regular statutory activities, such as general assemblies and run activism projects. (fill all)
:::Mature would be 725 euros.
:::Established would be 185 euros.
:::Emerging would be 50 euros.
:::Nascent would be 0 euros.
 
**Proposal by PPIL to provide exemptions for members who do not receive funding, thereby allowing Mature members to be considered Established, Established to be considered Emerging, Emerging members to be considered Nascent, and so on.
<- withdrawn
 
*Question from PPCZ if the mature members would have an objection to raise the fees to 1000 euros.
*PPCH indicates that with the 2% cap it will only pay 400 euros.
*IPNZ indicates the 2% can be opted out of if a party wants to pay more? its there to prtect those without funding
*PPCZ indicates that the fee can be increased to 1200.
*PPIL withdraws its proposal. It is not necessary with the 2% rule.
 
**Proposal by PPCZ to rephrase the categories, so they will be easier to follow.
*Proposal by Czech party to increase the affiliation fees for Mature members to 1000 euros.
 
* Pirate Party Austria - yes
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - abst
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - yes
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - yes
* Parti  Pirate France - abst
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - yes
* Pirate Party Israel - yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - abst
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - abst
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - yes
* Pirate Party Russia - abst
* Pirate Party Switzerland - yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - abst
* Pirate Party of Slovakia - yes
 
Voting Tallies
8.5 Yes, 0 No, 5.5 abstain
 
*The motion carries to increase the affiliation fees for Mature members to 1000 euros.
 
*This is proposal for member affiliation fees, it will remove all previous affiliation fee rules;
*Affiliation are made for a 4-Tier Membership Fee System. The Four Tiers are as follows: 1) Mature, 2) Established, 3) Emerging, 4) Nascent. Each member category would have a distinct affiliation fee payment. No member shall  pay more than 2% of their previous annual income. This would apply to the affiliation fees that are due in 2019.
::Mature members are Established members that also receive regular state funding, have elected officials at state or regional level, and/or have elected officials at local level who receive compensation. (fulfill at least two)
::Established members are Emerging members that also have paying members and run for elections on a regular basis.(fulfill all)
::Emerging members are Nascent members that also collect donations. (fulfill all)
::Nascent members have regular statutory activities, such as general assemblies and run activism projects. (fulfill all)
:::Mature would pay 1000 euros.
:::Established would pay 185 euros.
:::Emerging would pay 50 euros.
:::Nascent would pay  0 euros.
 
*Comment from PPDE which time onward would this motion carry? Would it start from 2019 onwards? Would it be instantly? Would it start this year from January onwards. This would apply to the 2018 affiliation fees that are due in 2019.
*This vote needs to pass with 2/3 majority.
*Article 6.6 Voting rules. Abstentions are not taken into account.
===Voting Tally for Affiliation Fees===
* Pirate Party Austria - Abst
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - 0
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - Yes
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - Yes
* Parti  Pirate France - Yes
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - Yes 
* Pirate Party Israel - Yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - Abst
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) -  Yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
* Pirate Party Russia - Abst
* Pirate Party Switzerland - Yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - Abst
* Pirate Party of Slovakia - Yes
 
* 10 Yes (9 Voting), 0 No, 4 Abstain
 
:Comment from PPNDL: Let's make sure that the expenses match the income and not the other way around.
:We will make a break and make sure that the budget matches the new proposed income.
 
 
==9.1. Budget 2019 cont ==
 
*https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/2018-ga-budget-revised-from-annual-report-and-treasurers-statement/88/2
*Comment that we are relegated to guessing income, especially with the 2% rule.
*Proposal that we are going ahead with the budget as is.
 
Approval of the budget as proposed by the Board;
* Pirate Party Austria - Abst
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - 0
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - Yes
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - Yes
* Parti  Pirate France - Yes
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - Yes
* Pirate Party Israel - Yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - Abst
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - Yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
* Pirate Party Poland - 0
* Pirate Party Russia -  Abst
* Pirate Party Switzerland - Yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - Abst
* Pirate Party of Slovakia - Yes
 
*Voting Tally
:10 (9 Voting power) Yes, 0 No, and 4 Abstain
:The budget is approved.
*Supplementary motion from PPCZ to collect information from the parties about income, which is independent of the budget.
*Comment from PPCH that the members should provide the information to the board rather than the other way around.
 
*PPCZ: Any member wishing to apply a limit of 2% to their affiliation fees shall provide a correct and full information on its membership base, income and electoral percentage to the board before the end of June of the fiscal year. Provisional figures may be provided and corrected figures provided at a the end of a year.
 
:Comment from PPDE that they report for the prior year to parliament, so it would be difficult for them to comply with this report. Provisional figures may be provided and corrected at a later date.
 
"Any member wishing to apply a limit of 2% to their affiliation fees shall provide a correct and full information on its membership base, income and electoral percentage to the board before the end of June of the fiscal year. Provisional figures may be provided and corrected figures provided at a the end of a year."
* Pirate Party Austria - yes
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - 0
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - Yes
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - Yes
* Parti  Pirate France - Yes
* Piratenpartei Deutschland - Yes
* Pirate Party Israel - Abst
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - Abst
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - Yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
* Pirate Party Russia - Yes
* Pirate Party Switzerland - Yes 
* Pirate Party Tunisia - Yes
* Pirate Party of Slovakia - yes
 
*Voting Tally
:12 (11 tally) Yes, 0 No, 2 Abstain
 
:Comment from Chair of PPI thanking that we created a budget and dues calculation system. The last time it took most of the GA to arrive at the affiliation fees. Today it was achieved in two hours. Thank you everyone for their patience and helping achieve this result.
 
 
==9.3. New vote tool ==
 
*New vote tool : Congressus for PPI
:https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/new-vote-tool-congressus/82
 
*Updated proposal:
:https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/new-vote-tool-congressus/82/2?u=vojtech_pikal
 
*General Assembly
: 1. Tasks the Board to evaluate Congressus
::a) as the tool for remote elections and voting on the points of General assembly meetings (St. XI (6)),
::b) as a permanent online e-Democracy system (St. XI (4)),
::c) as a tool for online General Assembly meetings,
::d) as a tool for Board meetings, and report its findings within 3 months to Members.
: 2. If the Board finds Congressus applicable in its report, it shall prepare it for use in such cases on PPI servers within 2 months after the report's release.
 
*Comment that PPI should try to roll out this tool for all Pirate parties.
 
*Voting on Congressus Proposal
 
* Pirate Party Austria - Yes
* Partido Pirata do Brasil - 0
* Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - Yes
* Pirate Party Czech Republic - Yes
* Parti  Pirate France - Yes
* Piratenpartei Deutschland -  Abst
* Pirate Party Israel - Yes
* Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
* Pirate Party Netherlands - Abst
* Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) -  Yes
* Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
* Pirate Party Russia - Yes
* Pirate Party Switzerland -  Yes
* Pirate Party Tunisia - yes
* Pirate Party of Slovakia - yes
 
Voting Tally
 
:12 (11 voting) Yes, 0 Nos, and 2 Abstains
:The motion passes.
 
== 9.4. Other bussines==
*Any other business/open mic/information items
16:30
::-- International coordination meetings, an information item by Bailey Lamon
*We had a few of these meetings that would allow us to do actual collaboration. People stopped coming, but we want to get them going again.
 
::-- Standing Committee for the revision of Statutes https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/special-commission-for-the-revision-of-the-statutes/84
 
::-- Standing Committee for ECOSOC and International NGO activities https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/standing-committee-for-ecosoc-and-international-ngo-activities/85
Closing of the GA
 
*Affiliation Fee Announcements
:https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/affiliation-fee-announcements/90
:Currently, 9 members have paid affiliation fees or requested a remission or postponement for the 2016 affiliation fees (due by the end of 2017). 2 members requested deferments
https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=Affiliation_fees#2016_Affiliation_Fees
:Only 2 parties have made 2017 affiliation fee payments: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=Affiliation_fees#2017_Affiliaton_Fees
:We need to try to collect more of the 2017 fees (due in 2018), based on the old rules.
 
*Standing Committee Volunteers
:Statute Committee
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/standing-committee-for-the-revision-of-the-statutes/84/9
:PPFR: The purpose of this mission is to set up a standing committee whose mission is to propose a global and coherent revision of the statutes and rules of procedure. Currently, the link between the office and the members is not perfect and it is necessary to create a moredynamic relationship.
:Guillaume: Let's focus our energy on developing projects and running activism campaigns rather than fixing something that is not broken or does not need more fixing. Delegate is a permanent word to represent a country at PPI. Active participation is expected.
:PPFR commented that this proposal can help us save debate time.
 
*ECOSOC Committee
https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/standing-committee-for-ecosoc-and-international-ngo-activities/85
PPIL: We set up a new email list for ECOSOC volunteers and will set up a further list for announcements. We have a number of projects relating to ECOSOC with urgent needs, such as fundraising our statement for the Commission for Social Development, side events, and more. Please enlist Pirates as volunteers for this Committee by having them write an email to subscribe to our mailing list:
ecosoc_volunteers@groups.pp-international.net
 
*GA Committee
:https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/new-statute-xxii-formal-committee-of-the-general-assembly/41/6
:It was formalized on the Discourse. No one wants to comment on it.
 
*Additional Committees not yet formalized on Discourse
:Fundraising Committee
:Think Twice Committee
:PSC Committee
:Member Relations Committee
 
*Any other business?
*PPNO has a comment that we should use Zoom. When we only use Zoom there are no complications. In Munich we had technical difficulties, which caused complications that were not related to Zoom. We will choose an open source solution once one is available, but so far we have not identified one.
 
*Message from the PPI Chair of thanks to everyone for their participation, our meeting chair, all those who have worked hard to make it happen, success is another issue, we did what we could with what we had in hand. Thanks for the huge contribution from Ray Johansen, Bailey, and others, who worked behind the scenes.
 
 
*Meeting Closed at 16:45 CET.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Latest revision as of 07:29, 17 January 2019

Board Meeting - 17.12.2018 - 21h00 CEST

Convened

Note : as some board members and alternate board members did not register on Congressus before the meeting, they are not appearing on the lists bellow.

  • Board :
    • Alternate board members :
      • Cedric
      • kittyhundal
      • DanPrazeresBR
    • Board members :
      • Etienne
      • keithgoldstein
      • BaileyL
      • RayJohansen
      • MichalGill

Absent

  • Board :
    • Alternate board members :
    • Board members :
  • Board delegatives members :

Ordre du jour

PROCEEDINGS

Board Rules of Procedure : http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Board/Rules_of_Procedure

Chair and secretary

Meeting opened at 21:08 CEST by Bailey
Meeting chaired by Bailey
Secretary for this meeting is Etienne

Streaming started: xxx

Recording started: 21:08

Quorum

Establishing quorum.

Conclusion
Quorum established with 5 out of 7 board members present.


Etienne: Guillaume is excused.
Ladislav, absent not excused
Etienne: Koen and Bastian are here

APPROVAL ON THE MINUTES

Link of the last minutes :https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/december-17-2018-xn2s040

:Approval on the minutes
The minutes of the last meeting are approved :
YES: Mike, Bailey, Ray, Etienne, Keith
NO:
ABSTENTIONS:
Conclusion
Minutes approved


REPORTS

Reports order :
  • Board : Guillaume, Bailey, Keith, Ladislav, Ray, Mike, Etienne
  • Alternate : Daniel, Gregory, Kitty, Cédric


BaileyL: There is the Catalonia project. Keith, Ray and I attende the meeting for the pirate security conference.
RayJohansen: Business as usual. Same that Bailey about the PCS. I won't be very active before the end of the year.
RayJohansen: Business as usual. Also under the weather so my activity level will be low until the turn of the year.
MichalGill: Same for me, I won't be available before the end of the year. I do not send the email yet.
Etienne: Nothing new on my side. Sorry.
kittyhundal: Nothing to report. I'll be involved on Ray's prject. I'd be happy to participate to the Catalonia project.
Cedric: I installed Congressus. I've full access to the VM. I do my part, I'll upgrade Congressus and I'll inform soon.
We translated in French the call for Catalonia project.
keithgoldstein: i've been working on UN report for elder people that we need to do quicky. I work on TT4 and PSC.

We have to sign up our permanent representatives for UN meeting in NY, Vienna and Geneva.

1. TECH ISSUES

Points under this item :
  • Give an access to the Information System to Credric
  • Any issues remaining to enable Congressus installation
  • Functioning of the mailinglists (MO-5 2015 GA)


Give an access to the Information System to Cedric

Give an access to the Information System to Cedric Levieux for Congressus installation and maintenance

Note : This should be about introductions, tutorials, or other news concerning our decision to experiment with Congressus

Person in charge : Cedric
RayJohansen: Resolved, and as such needs not be discussed, right?
Cedric: We need, in my point to view to make a post-mortem, because I really had a bad experience ...
Cedric: I was vexed by Bastian during the process. I was really hard to go forward. Please be kind with people, we all do mistakes.
BaileyL: Thank you to Cédric and Bastian. Cédric did a really great job.
Bastian : Lot of issues, I'm not discuting those issues with all board. If I've a tech issues, I'll clear that with my colleage. I'm quite upset about what Cedric just said but we'll have to speak about this later.

Any issues remaining to enable Congressus installation

Any issues remaining to enable Congressus installation: public key, subdomain, encryption of credentials, etc.

Person in charge : Cédric
Cedric: Only few upgrade to make to have full functionality between discord and congressus, explain more what is the personae part for delegation between members

Functioning of the mailinglists (MO-5 2016 GA)

Functioning of the mailinglists (MO-5 2016 GA)

Person in charge : None

Note : Also, Keith would like to again propose uniting the PPI discussion and PP-Leaders email addresses, and I think we need to make an announcement that users who wish to write to the group now need to use the email pp-leaders@groups.pp-international.net ***GROUPS
keithgoldstein: I have a point for this task. I asked before about combining pp-leaders and pp-discussion, and we did not, but it seems to me there are many people who for whatever reason signed up for pp-discussions and not pp-leaders, and we should combine these lists, because no one uses pp-leaders.discussion.
BaileyL: I second that. I've heard about good argument for not doing it.
Conclusion
Keith will fix this.



Bastian : I can put people on the same ML. We have to care for the needs of the members. We need to ask people before to delete them.
keithgoldstein: the groups. is important. before you did not have to use groups. , so it is important that everyone knows that. i will clarify in an email.
exactly. we are just going to combine the mailing lists.
We are not going to throw them away.
I am just going to send all pp-leaders emails to both mailing lists.

2. FINANCIAL ISSUES

Points under this item :
  • Collection of Affiliation Fees Due in 2018
  • Provinding Invoices For Payment
  • Affiliation fees that are due to be paid before the end of 2019
  • Budget
  • Cashiers

Collection of Affiliation Fees Due in 2018

Collection of Affiliation Fees Due in 2018

Speaker : Mike
MichalGill: As I said before. I'm on it but I'm really busy actually.

Providing Invoices for Payments

Providing Invoices for Payments

Speaker : Mike
MichalGill: I received the last year template. I've to fix it for 2018 fees.

Affiliation fees that are due to be paid before the end of 2019

Affiliation fees that are due to be paid before the end of 2019

Speaker : Mike
MichalGill: As I said before. I'm on it but I'm really busy actually.

Budget

Budget

Also update balances from cashiers.

Speaker : Mike

RayJohansen: I propose this item be called Budgets, plural.
The board needs to be presented with and formalize the following:
Budget 2019
Quarterly budget 2019
Liquidity budget 2019 (sometimes referred to as cash flow budget)
Quarterly Liquidity budget 2019
In addition, the board needs to decide on what we demand in the form of financial reports for each board meeting. I think this should be its own point: Reporting

Cashiers

Cashiers

We have a retiring cashier.

Speaker : Guillaume
keithgoldstein: Rudulph is retiring.
We have a conflict of interest with the other cashier that became Lay Auditors.
Guillaume will find to people and we'll have to nominated here.

3. ADMINISTRATION

Items under this point :
  • Rules of procedures
  • Members
  • Monthly outreach meeting
  • Tools

Rules of procedure

Items under this point :
  • Change to Board RoP #1 - Deleting §5 - point 3
  • Change to Board RoP #2 - Adding minimum criteria for agenda items

Change to Board RoP # 1 - Deleting §5 - point 3

Proposal for board meeting: Change to Board RoP # 1 - Deleting §5 - point 3

We were supposed to have a rule addition to clarify the rules after removing this rule.

Person in charge : Gregory and Ray
RayJohansen: This has been resolved and does not need to be in the agenda. But someone should edit the wiki to reflect the boards decision.
RayJohansen: Someone "suggested" there was a need for clarification of the rules after removing this. There is no need for clarification. The a board decision is from now on made by a simple majority. Which is more than half of quorum.
keithgoldstein: I think there is a need, because now it states "Decisions are taken by a majority of board members present at the meeting."
RayJohansen: We need to change the rules on the wiki. If that constitutes a problem that I'm not aware of please explain.
keithgoldstein: We still have the possibility to take decision with only three members persons.
RayJohansen: Okay, so we need to have to make a new proposition for the next meeting.
keithgoldstein: So now we only need 3 votes still for a board decision. A further rule is required that we will need to propose for the next board meeting.

Change to Board RoP # 2 - Adding minimum criteria for agenda items

Proposal for board meeting: Change to Board RoP # 2 - Adding minimum criteria for agenda items

Discuss criteria and programs that must correlate, Redmine, Congressus.

Person in charge : none
RayJohansen: This was postponed to include more proposals for changes by Gregory Engels. It does not need to be in this agenda and is postponed until such a time Gregory is finished with his work.
keithgoldstein:
keithgoldstein: We wait to discuss this topic until a later date.
Conclusion
Topic is postponed until the next meeting.



Members

Items under this point :
  • Inventory of PPI members and pirates parties
  • Nonmember Contact

Inventory of PPI members and pirates parties

Inventory of PPI members and pirates parties

Person in charge : Ray
RayJohansen: This is an old thing that has been at 100 % for quite some time. For the next board meeting a project that aims to describe a plan to make tech for member administration - will be presented. It will not happen in this meeting.
keithgoldstein: There is a working group, which can be dismissed as resolved and moved to the working group.

Nonmember Contact

Nonmember Contact

Announcement of full observer membership interest from Chile, make sure that we get all applications from interested parties as soon as possible.

Person in charge : Keith
keithgoldstein: Chile contacts us. Some parties express that they want to join the PPI. If some party contacts you please don't wait to long before to help them complete their application.

Monthly outreach meeting

Monthly outreach meeting

Person in charge : Bailey
RayJohansen: This does not belong in the agenda. When, and only when, Bailey decides to present a plan for the meetings it will be on the agenda again. (IMHO)

Tools

Items under this point :
  • Board Decision, Tasks, Voting Organization Tool
  • Board meeting location : test Discord
  • Updating Decisions of the Board on our wiki

Board Decision, Tasks, Voting Organization Tool

Board Decision, Tasks, Voting Organization Tool

Discussion of continuation to update using which programs and where to include what.

Person in charge : None
RayJohansen: We are in the middle of a test of one of several tools. We do not need to discuss this in this meeting, IMHO. It does not need to be in the agenda until such a time the item is proposed again. I will do so after the tests are done. When we do make a decision on this the reasons for our choices must be made clear in supporting documents that must be written. This is especially true when we choose non-open source solutions.

Board meeting location : test Discord

Proposal for board meeting: Board meeting location : test Discord

Person in charge : Etienne
RayJohansen: We are now testing it. There is no need to discuss it in this board meeting.

Updating Decisions of the Board on our Wiki

Updating Decisions of the Board on our Wiki

Person in charge : Keith and Thomas
keithgoldstein: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Board/Decisions_of_Board&action=edit&redlink=1
keithgoldstein: We are updating the decisions. We could use help. Please help, pick some minutes.
keithgoldstein: I've done the first board from 2010. It's a lot of work. Any help is welcome. Just choose one meeting and work !

4. COMMUNICATION

Items under this point :
  • PPI Newsletter
  • Article On Using Online Democracy Tools
  • Video Campaign

PPI Newsletter

PPI Newsletter

Person in charge : Bailey and Keith
RayJohansen: I do not see the need to discuss this in the meeting. We have discussed it and had it on the agenda since forever. Non of those times has a description of the task been made. In addition no person in charge of it has been found. Some say we should have a newsletter, (but what a news letter is has not been formulatet), while some contend that we do not need a new thing when we have trouble writing things for the things we already have. Wordpress, Facebook, Twitter and emails.

Article on Using Online Democracy Tools

Article on Using Online Democracy Tools

Person in charge : Guillaume
Conclusion
No updates.


keithgoldstein: Please keep in mind, you can write article ! Any participation is welcomed.
BaileyL: If you want to write about anything, make a video go !

Video Campaign

Video Campaign

Person in charge : Ray

5. ECOSOC

Items under this point :
  • Requestion for Inputs
  • Annual Membership Passes for UNHQ - New-York

Request for Inputs

Request for Inputs to 10th session of the General Assembly’s Open-ended Working Group on Ageing

Person in charge : Keith
keithgoldstein: This a very important task. The dead line is February 1st. All the details are in the Redmine task. Please join.

Annual Membership Passes for UNHQ - New York

Annual Membership Passes for UNHQ - New York

Person in charge : Keith
keithgoldstein: Please nominate people from Geneva, from N-Y (and Vienna).

4. CONFERENCES

Items under this point :
  • Pirate Security Conference
  • Think Twice #4

PCS

Item under this point :
  • Proposal for agenda item : Pirate Security Conference - Discussion

Proposal for agenda item: Pirate Security Conference - discussion

Proposal for agenda item: Pirate Security Conference - discussion

Person in charge : Ray, Bailey, Keith

Here is a discussion of the meeting that we had on 12/13
<Please add announcements from pad>
RayJohansen: This agenda item was resolved. A discussion happened and was acted on. Things were clarified.
AFTER budgets have been formalized we will then see IF we have the cash flow to give 400 euros to PSC. But that is for a new item when we can do it.
RayJohansen: On a sidenote. There can only be one person in charge. Many may participate but there cannot be more than one "Person in Charge"
BaileyL: We attended the organization meeting. It was really good. We got an idea how they handle this and how PPI can help. Our role is not clear, but we might help with social media communication.
keithgoldstein: They are thinking about having a PPI speaker in the event to speak on behalf of the movement.

TT4

Item under this point :
Proposal for Board meeting : Think Twice #4 - Discussion

Proposal for board meeting: Think Twice #4 - discussion

Proposal for board meeting: Think Twice #4 - discussion

Person in charge : Ladislav, Mike, Keith and Koen

RayJohansen: This was resolved. There was a discussion where it was clarified a plan including budget must be penned and presented to the board who only then can decide IF we will run the conference. (There should be only one person in charge, although many might be listed as participants.)
MichalGill: The information is in the hand of the PPCZ board. We have to wait.
keithgoldstein: Koen said that he'll working on the website. We have to set up a working group for coordination.
RayJohansen: Point of order : Please remove this two points of order. If there are any news, put up new agenda items. This two have been resolved.

6. STATUES REVISION

Item under this point :
  • Subgroup for revamping the language of the PPI Statutes

Subgroup for revamping the language of the PPI statutes

Subgroup for revamping the language of the PPI statutes

Person in charge : Etienne, Guillaume, Keith
Etienne: This point is not relevant because we decided to set up a new process.

AOB - Any other business

keithgoldstein: There is a huge project for fund raising : register to the state of Geneva but it's a lot of work.
RayJohansen: We starts to use Congressus and Discord. it's really impressing. It's well organize... I'm ready to call it a huge success. It only gets better. It can helps us to work in a more professional way.
I want to thank Bailey for this really good first meeting.
I want to the French members for this tool
BaileyL: It is an awesome tool... Thank you to Cédric and Etienne for the tool, and Bastian.
The raise hand helps me.

NEXT MEETING

Next meeting : Sunday 30th - 9PM CET

RayJohansen: Suggestion: Sunday December 30th 17:00 CET
RayJohansen: Thomas
Forget the 30th. Skip to 07.01.
14:00 CET
Make it Sund. the 14th
Conclusion
The 30th meeting is skip.


RayJohansen: Chair sees the opportunities and just invites if no objections are given.
Conclusion
Decided date : Mon. 14th January - 21:00 CET Where ? On the French Discord



Ayant participé à un vote

  • 9 - MichalGill
  • 5 - BaileyL
  • 6 - RayJohansen
  • 3 - Etienne
  • 4 - keithgoldstein
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