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If you know about someone else you can invite them as  well but would prefer to keep work-group on this very small until  structure if set up and we can expand the project to include more  people.
Gefion (flaschenpost) GMT +1
Daniel (flaschenpost) GMT+2
Justus (PPDE) GMT +2
Mozart (PPAU) Busy for next two weeks =11jun?
Josef @collentine GMT -6

'''Next meeting: Wednesday 13/6 at 19.00 London = 20.00 Berlin/NL = 13.00 Mexico'''

'''ACTION PLAN'''

'''Before Meeting'''
1) Talk to PPI about being official press service -> @collentine did this at board meeting
        *PPI very positive
        *Set up as a work-group -> provides independence
        *Happy to help with infrastructure we need. ML, Wordpress, Servers, etc.
        *Gregory and Jerry expressed interest in helping with articles
2) Subpad structure for team -> Daniel will ask Jerry -> need our own later? or ok with .eu?
3) Internal mail-list needed. 'ppnews' = suggested name. -> Josef sent mail to Gregory
4) Structure to get new team-members on board -> Gefion
5) Create a pad with short intro about this project + searching for team members. Will be used mainly for crowd-sourcing our name but also introducing ourselves. 
    -> Name of pad?

'''After Name is found'''
1) Social media accounts
2) Mail account
3) Domain (or subdomain on PPI?)
4) External ML
5) Contact pirate parties and get on distribution list for press-releases.

'''PREVIOUS MEETING'''
Agenda:
Aim
Result
Target group
Relations with other groups (see bottom)
Areas of reporting
Name of Int PP news agency

'''Protocol:'''

Aim
Spread information across country borders and make it more accessible.
Information about what is going in each PP
Information on general pirate topics
Gefion: Do not make it too narrow, provide a platform for ppl to publish what they want to write about, build a team from that process
Set up a technical/organizational infrastructure so that the publishing is easy, provide proof reading etc., learning by doing, set the standards during we work out how the working goes.
Also become known as the place where Pirates know they can go to get international pirate news

language: English for now, as we don't need to provide news in German (FP) or Swedish (everybody speaks English in Sweden), and we do not have the skills yet to provide our service in other languages like Spanish
Define what we want to translate etc., not overreach
what to write ourselves
what to re-post / translate
what to recommend
Be a an instant source of news via a blog, and give the highlights for people that do not want to spend so much time on looking for news through the newsletter
Build up local contacts in each country. Dividing responsibility on a few countries each (long-term goal)

'''Result'''
Milestones, do no need to be discussed yet, end of agenda...

'''Target Group'''
Short- and middle-term: Pirates and interested people
long-term possibly expand

Areas of Reporting
Narrow it down to 4 areas, try to publish on those in balance (ie not weigh one area too heavily)
Not only what other people do and say, but also on our own content

1) Global PP related news 
2) Organizational tips 
3) Election Results and changes in Pirate Parties + EU parliament
4) Interviews (introducing pirate parties and pirates)
** Important dates

Rough target = 10 articles per month. 
1) Global News
2) Organizational Tips *2
3) election results and GA's (depends on how many happen), 1 EU parliament
4) 2 pirate party introductions, 1 pirate interview

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'''off-topic''': I'm playing around with PHP and contact info at http://pirateparties.collentine.com 

The  first steps towards making an international news service is discussing  what we want from it. Throwing out some thoughts and ideas I have about  it. Hoping for comments and feedback as well as finding people  interested in helping with this. We need people acting as  reporters/curators for this project. For this new international news  agency I suggest we keep the form of a simple newsletter with links to  more information for interested people. Starting small and scaling up  the reporting if we see that we have enough people and time for it. I'm  in the field of PR/Marketing and thus appreciate especially tips from  Flaschenpost and maybe how to take parts from there into this project.

'''Background''': Changingpirateparties
I  have a similar project called Changingpirateparties which is a global  pirate party newsletter (reaching 83 pirates from +15 countries, many  high up in their national party). This was started due to my university  allowing time for it in a course about 'projects' for a few months. I  have been running it myself and been using the proprietary software  madmimi.com to help with layout and management. It stagnated a bit  mostly because it was limited to 100 subscribers and I wanted to move  from their platform. The newsletter focused the news on what would be  relevant across country borders and contained 4 focused sections: Global  PP news, Organizational tips, Election Resuls / changes and Important  dates. Sample of how it looks https://madmimi.com/mimio/07fe72/ and https://madmimi.com/mimio/ce4ac1 


'''New project'''

Aim: Spread information across country borders and make it more accessible.
Result:  Creating international awareness and strengthening the sense of a  'pirate movement'. Increased collaboration and communication across  borders. 
Target group? Whom are we aiming at? Which people do we want to reach? Pirates? People who are interested in the party? The whole world?  -> I'd say mainly as an internal communication reaching and  connecting pirates across borders + journalists to show progress and  give them ideas on what to write about.
I'd  say mainly pirates interested in international politics and how it  develops. Also could it be interesting as a source of information for  pirate parties without a own newsletter. +1

'''Needs to discuss and fix'''
Name of agency (I like my old one of changingpirateparties, other ideas?)
Message in a Bottle, which would be the English translation of Flaschenpost, has a very nice ring to it too, I think. But we do not want to make it sound too germanocentric, as per usual, of course
G: This also might cause problems because as far as I know it's a registered trademark The German PP press service, or the Sting song?  From a marketing perspective I'd say bottle gives connotations to  something small and closed off. With the name ChangingPirateParties I  have two main things in mind. Partly describing how PP's are changing  and partly as a symbol that the information in newsletter will hopefully  affect and inspire some PP's to change. Bad aspect of the name is that  it's a long one and has no good abbreviation.
Domain (let the old one expire in waiting for this project)
Newsletter infrastructure (need to replace madmimi.com, using mailman software instead?) +1 for mailman. We use that for the Flaschenpost as well.
Staff in form of reporters / curators (start very small and then scale) +1
Do  we want people who write exclusively for this project? Much of the  content of the Flaschenpost could simply be translated and reused ... ? I  guess we'll have problems with setting up a whole new team!+1 No need for exclusivity, pirates share! So mainly translations at the begin and then start writing own content while getting bigger? I'd say linking to interesting content in newsletter and do some of our own. See Changingpirateparties format
Meetings / development of project (here and on Mumble +1 or skype)
Both fine for me

'''Areas of reporting'''
1) Global PP related news 
2) Organizational tips 
3) Election Results and changes in Pirate Parties
4) Important dates
5) Interviews (doable with more than just me working with it) = #7
6) EU parliament (reports from the two pirate MEPS)
7)  Introductions of pirate parties around the world (?) -> We have done  this for a long time in Germany so plenty to build on ... and some  already available in English :)
8)  Interesting new programms in national pirate parties -> for example:  Germany and the BGE, in that case we would write about that Normally include that in #3 Good to merge a few to keep areas down I think

'''Scalability''' (more steps?, change of order?)
1. Similar to Changingpirateparties newsletter with 1/month
Sounds like a good starting point to me.
2. Adding three more areas #5 #6 #7 and doing more digging, interviewing
4. Efficient curation (youtube, PPI wiki, etc)
-> Why also stuff as youtube and not only stay with text?  curation = sifting through content to find good stuff and making it  available to others. There's a lot of good videos produced but no one  collecting them. Highlight a few new campaign/interviews on Youtube in  newsletters? 
3. Bi-weekly (?) newsletter
4. Translations (use PPI TTF to make newsletter and reports in more languages), use resources like parrot.fm and Flaschenpost to translate interesting items.
I  would make this the first step, really. Generating own content is far  harder than starting out with a small team that focusses on gathering  interesting content and translating it. More languages would be  brilliant (we thought about translating the Flaschenpost for quite some  time now!) but creates additional organisational workload - how do you  make sure every person who wants to receive the newsletter gets the  language he or she wants? How do you consistently translate? (Or you end  up with this article in EN and DE, that one in EN and CZ, the other one  in EN and RU ...)  Agree but also see it as a hard step with translations. Maintaining a  good and consistent translation is hard work, easy in beginning but  quickly detoriates (ex look at PPEU) -> thus get project started  first with only english and consider translating after. Re-using old  content is definitely good as well but mostly looking for new content.  Think translating new and interesting articles between here and  Flaschenpost is no problem. So  stay with English and leave the translation to the local newsletters?  And other way round translate stuff from the local newsletters if we  think it is interesting?yeah, sounds right. -> that's what I meant in the first place :)


'''Channels to spread our news''' 
Newsletter (main and most important)
Twitter (instant, similar to @ppnewsletter today)
Blog (publishing our own content from interviews, digging research)
I  propose we use the system the Flaschenpost has used for more than two  years now: Wordpress blog that publishes all items and a wrap up of  these as a newsletter (we can use everything else on top, of course).  This also allows addons for multi-language! see http://ppeu.net for a language plugin in action  agree but also consider it important to link to other relevant articles  in newsletter like I've done with changingpirateparties. No need to  create everything ourself when there is so many good things in other  places that also need attention globally.
PPI Wiki (curation with news we produce)
Youtube (aggregating pirate videos)

'''Sources for information'''
Blogs
Wiki's (digging)
Interviews
Board meeting protocols
conferences
Pressreleases
Country  summary reports (have responsible give short summary of past month,  Reporters can have responsibility for a few countries each to lighten  load of gathering reports)
I  am building an 'attachee' service for PPDE, with ppl helping the int  coordinators by summarizing what is happening in the individual  countries. Maybe we can get some of them to provide their content also  in a way that is suitable for us? sounds good. Had a similar idea with international coordinators in different countries.
PPAU currently has a "Pirate Gazette" and webcast. Could be good source of info.
Info channels: http://piratenpad.de/p/cpp

Other thoughts and ideas?

Relations with others. How we fit in.
We should define our relationships with the following groups of pirates imo:
Press services and officers on international (PPI (parrot)), national and subnational level
news services on national  and subnational levels, podcasts etc.
Websites like LQDN, netzpolitik.org, ...
as to where we want to advertise, for what we want to advertise, and whose content we want to scan for possible translations


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