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::&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;--- 30/04/2013 20:00h CEST ---&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mumble: mumble.piratenpartei-nrw.de &lt;br /&gt;
:: Room: &amp;quot;/international/pirate parties international/board meeting&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Record of the meeting ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Audio Recordings: https://archive.org/details/PPIBoardMeeting20130430&lt;br /&gt;
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== 1 - ATTENDEES ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== 1.1 - Members of the PPI board  ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::participating: Thomas, Azat, Denis, Vojtech, Marc, Nuno, Gregory&lt;br /&gt;
::excused:&lt;br /&gt;
::unexcused:&lt;br /&gt;
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=== 1.2 - Others ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Yasin Aydın (after 21:10)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 2 - PROCEEDINGS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:RoP: http://int.piratenpartei.de/PPI_Board/Rules_of_Procedure&lt;br /&gt;
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:Meeting opened at 20:28 CEST by Gregory&lt;br /&gt;
:Meeting closed at 23:02 CEST by Gregory&lt;br /&gt;
:Meeting chaired by Gregory&lt;br /&gt;
:Secretary for this meeting is Denis&lt;br /&gt;
:Quorum established with 7 out of 7 board members present. &lt;br /&gt;
:Streaming started: yes&lt;br /&gt;
:Recording started: yes (Gregory)&lt;br /&gt;
:Postal votes: none&lt;br /&gt;
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== 3 - REPORTS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== 3.1 - Short report of the board members ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Members of the board shall give a short summary (one  minute at maximum) of what happened since the last board meeting or  their last report. If something needs more attention, it should be  discussed in separate points.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Gregory: I was a first meeting with the russian organizors team regarding fincance aftermath (it seems that we are nearly financially even with loss of maybe 50 €), I have done a lot of admin stuff, creating new accounts for new board members, changing wiki and website information and some communication.  And I have installed a CRM &lt;br /&gt;
* Vojtech: Getting prepared for the board work, reading the RoPs, preparing some materials for online meeting (later in its own agenda item), meet with PP-HU&lt;br /&gt;
* Nuno: I&amp;#039;ve been testing out docker (http://www.docker.io) in order to make self contained packages of platforms that can be run effortlessly by PP&amp;#039;s and in the process have been trying out Loomio (https://www.loomio.org) as well as a test case.&lt;br /&gt;
* Azat: Finished translation of Russian version of piratenpad. getting familiar with PPI infrastructure, clearing situation with GA costs.&lt;br /&gt;
* Thomas Only administrative stuff by now&lt;br /&gt;
* Denis: I was in Kazan. Oh, and I wrote the press release together with Gregory.&lt;br /&gt;
* Marc: I was in Kazan (Chief projection officer ;)).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== 4. GA in Kazan - aftermath ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:fedback pad http://ppi.piratenpad.de/2013-GA-Kazan-aftermath&lt;br /&gt;
:TODO -&amp;gt; send it out to the participants (Gregory), deadline one week.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: We are almost even with finances, probably 50€ in minus. Pat tries to publish the conference minutes asap. According to the statutes it must be until 2 weeks after the GA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Vojtech: We don&amp;#039;t know what motions passed and by how many votes. Is there a way to find this out? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: There is a draft in this pad: http://piratenpad.de/p/kazan2013&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Marc: Was there a list who payed the entrance fee?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: Yes. Someone payed less than he should have and there might be another person who probably forgot to pay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Azat: We have some video files of the assembly so it&amp;#039;s possible to consult them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory and Azat will meet to create the final finance report of the conference.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== 5 Elections among board members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* According to http://wiki.pp-international.net/Statutes#XII._Board the board elects among the board members:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Vojtech: In our RoP there is no voting/election, suggestion to use the method of the RoP of the conference: http://wiki.pp-international.net/PPI_Conference_2013/GA_meeting/RoP#Art._6a_Elections&lt;br /&gt;
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=== 5.1 Treasurer ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Marc offers to become the treasurer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Presentation: Marc speaks about his experiences in the field of threasuring for NGOs&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Vote&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
: Yes: Nuno, Thomas, Azat, Gregory, Vojtěch, Denis&lt;br /&gt;
: No: -&lt;br /&gt;
: Abstain: Marc&lt;br /&gt;
: Invalid yes: Yasin&lt;br /&gt;
: Marc is the new treasurer. Congrats!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 5.2 Chief of Administration===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas volunteers.&lt;br /&gt;
: Presentation: a lot of admin and representation experiences for various pirate parties. &lt;br /&gt;
: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Vote&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
: Yes: Vojtěch, Nuno, Denis, Azat, Marc, Gregory&lt;br /&gt;
: No:&lt;br /&gt;
: Abstain: Thomas&lt;br /&gt;
: Invalid yes: Yasin&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Congrats to our new Chief of Administration Thomas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== 6 Appointment of Secretary General ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* According to http://wiki.pp-international.net/Statutes#XIII._Functions_of_the_Board has to appoint the Secretary General of Pirate Parties International&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* According to http://wiki.pp-international.net/Statutes#XIV._PPI_Headquarters  the Secretary General shall be appointed by the Board and shall be the chief administrative officer of Pirate Parties International&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory proposes to appoint Thomas for the position of Secretary General of PPI HQ.&lt;br /&gt;
: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Vote&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
: Yes: Nuno, Denis, Marc, Gregory&lt;br /&gt;
: No:&lt;br /&gt;
: Abstain: Thomas, Vojtěch, Azat&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: -&amp;gt; The motion has passed. (4y/0n/3a)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas will contact a lawyer who knows Belgium law and try to elaborate a suggestion to improve the situation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== 7 Alternate Board Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*  Proposal by Thomas: Alternate board members should be given read/write access to any internal mailinglists/redmine etc. of the current board. This shall  assure a smooth transition in case a board member resigns or is out of office due to others reasons stated out in the statutes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Vojtech: In upport in spirit of the original CZ proposul to elect to the board all the people that have the will and support.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: There is a separate mailing list for the alternate board members but they didn&amp;#039;t have access to the board mailing list (neither write nor read). They already have access to the Redmine and Pad today.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Vojtech: If we include them to our list we also should remove the alternate board members list (and any other tools which are for alternate board members only).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: There is only the list. It can be removed with a single click.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Vote&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
: Yes: Vojtech, Nuno, Denis, Marc, Thomas, Gregory, Azat&lt;br /&gt;
: No:&lt;br /&gt;
: Abstain:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: The motion has passed (7/0/0).&lt;br /&gt;
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== 8 Transition of the board ==&lt;br /&gt;
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: We think that it is a good idea to organize a transition board meeting where we invite the &amp;quot;old&amp;quot; board members who are no longer in the board now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas has a TODO to organize such a meeting and to set up a doodle to find appropriate date.&lt;br /&gt;
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== 9 General Assembly 2014 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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: Gregory: We should start organizing next physical GA - we would need to discuss some facts first.&lt;br /&gt;
: first: location - Prefer Application from - e.g. South America, Oceania, Asia, North America? - Europa only as the very last option/fallback?&lt;br /&gt;
: Vojtech: Good organization is more important than a remote location&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas: We need enough time to organize.&lt;br /&gt;
: Nuno: The task of the board is to organize and set up the meeting, not to choose the location. We should let the members decide on that.&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas: Objects. We will be taken into the responsability if something goes wrong so we have to decide on almost everthing which happens at the assembly.&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: In the past the board has decided, taking into consideration the location, prize, etc. I agree that our members can choose with the same competency as we do and we could also work out a proposal.&lt;br /&gt;
: Nuno: Ack.&lt;br /&gt;
:Vojtech: Is the decision on location a pure executive, or a political one?&lt;br /&gt;
:Gregory: it can&amp;#039;t be separated from each other.&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas: We can still ask our members what they think what would be the best decision and take their opinion into account.&lt;br /&gt;
: Nuno: If the members want it to be in a certain place we must do it there because otherwise it would be against the will of our members.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Motion: Board rises an issue to E-democracy system to select the organizer and location of the next GA meeting out of proposals submited to the board that meets the criteria in the Call for Hosts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Vote&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
: Yes: Nuno, Azat, Vojtech, Thomas, Denis, Gregory&lt;br /&gt;
: No:&lt;br /&gt;
: Abstain: Marc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: result: the motion passed (6/0/1)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Call for Hosts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Similiar to http://wiki.pp-international.net/GA-2013_Call_for_Hosts&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: ( https://ppi.piratenpad.de/call-for-offers-conferences )&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: When: Spring 2014?&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas: May?&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: In May many of our members face the election campaigns for european parliament and local elections.&lt;br /&gt;
: Vojtech: we should do it after the elections then&lt;br /&gt;
: Denis: We should do it before the EU elections&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: This could also help for the elections, especially for the european ones.&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas: I suggest very late of February to early May.&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: Which is spring.&lt;br /&gt;
: Azat: Agreed.&lt;br /&gt;
: All agree.&lt;br /&gt;
: We do not add a geographical restriction on the location.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: talking about criteria:&lt;br /&gt;
:: Gregory: we should formulate different criteria - first shot:&lt;br /&gt;
:: Northamerica - at least 150 ppl&lt;br /&gt;
:: Southamerica, Oceania - at least 100 ppl&lt;br /&gt;
:: Europe - at least 250 ppl&lt;br /&gt;
:: Africa, Asia - at least 50 ppl&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Deadlines:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: 14.05.2013 - Preparing the criteria&lt;br /&gt;
: 15.05.2013 - publishing the call for offers&lt;br /&gt;
: 12.06.2013 - deadline for applications (+4 weeks) &lt;br /&gt;
: 19.06.2013 - mumble conference(Public) with all offers./public offer opening. (+1 week)&lt;br /&gt;
: 26.06.2013 - board selects those who meet the criteria (+1 week)&lt;br /&gt;
: 27.06.2013 - members involvement on the GA offers - start (+1 day)&lt;br /&gt;
: 12.07.2013 - members involvement on the GA offers - end (+15 days)&lt;br /&gt;
: 13.07:2013 - announce winners. (+1 day)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas: I&amp;#039;d like to vote whether the dates are fixed.&lt;br /&gt;
: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Vote&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
: Yes: Nuno, Denis, Thomas, Marc, Vojtech, Azat, Gregory&lt;br /&gt;
: No:&lt;br /&gt;
: Abstain:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Result: Motion has passed unanimously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Responsible for e-democracy involvement (members involvement)&lt;br /&gt;
: Nuno: I want to be involved because I proposed the amendment which passed. I want to be responsible to ask which system to be used.&lt;br /&gt;
: Vojtech: I&amp;#039;d like to be responsible for selecting the permanent system.&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: I suggest that you work toghether with Nuno.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: --&amp;gt; Azat, Vojtech and Nuno will work together on this matter (and present possibilities).&lt;br /&gt;
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== 10 Presence Board meeting ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:suggestion to hold a physical meeting&lt;br /&gt;
:: Denis: not possible before july&lt;br /&gt;
:: Weekend in doodle. Location: open&lt;br /&gt;
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: All board members are in favour to meet in a physical meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
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: TODO: Gregory sets up a doodle.&lt;br /&gt;
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== 11 Online e-Democracy system ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal by Azat: Need to establish plan with actions to build online e-Democracy system for PPI (According to http://wiki.pp-international.net/Statutes#XI._Voting )&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Proposed Plan:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: 1. Set-up working group&lt;br /&gt;
: 2. Send Call to Members to gather ideas (fixed structure for reply)&lt;br /&gt;
: 3. Create document that is going to describe the system&lt;br /&gt;
: 4. Create and test the system?&lt;br /&gt;
: We agree that we need to figure out which is the right solution to do e-democracy. There are many possibilities, many criteria and also needs of our members.&lt;br /&gt;
: (Reminder, forum for pp-international: http://www.pp-international.net/phpBB3/ a subdivision for e-democracy might be built up anytime to discuss &amp;quot;things&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:Gregory: We defined a group which is responsible to work out proposals. I propose that we end the discussion now and that the work group sets up the details how to handle this.&lt;br /&gt;
: The group will present their proposals in a future board meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
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== 12 AOB ==&lt;br /&gt;
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===12.1 AOB1  Accepting Board RoP by GA?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Raised by Vojtech.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: PPI Statutes XIII.(4) The Board adopts rules of procedure that specify the provisions of internal regulations and voting rules.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Statutes X function of GA are h) to accept internal regulations for the Pirate Parties International and to exercise other functions resulting from these Statutes, …&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Vojtech: Shouldn&amp;#039;t we pass our RoP to the GA to decide upon?&lt;br /&gt;
: Gegory, Thomas and Denis think that this doesn&amp;#039;t make much sense.&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas: Out of experience it works best when a body gives the RoP to itself as they know best their own needs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
; Vojtech: I am OK with that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== 12.2 AOB2 Language for PPI: British or American English? ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Raised by Thomas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: What English to use in our communication and documents?&lt;br /&gt;
: Gregory: If someone is familiar with one sort of English he should stick to it. Don&amp;#039;t mix sorts of english in one document.&lt;br /&gt;
: Thomas: The people involved should agree what English to be used.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Everyone agrees.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== AOB3 -  talk about the proposal for reruning the Kazan GA===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: raised by Vojtech &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: http://pad.pirati.cz/p/kazan-planB-mumble_conference&lt;br /&gt;
: lets talk about this on the next meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Moved to the next meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Next Meeting: 2013-05-14 20:00 CEST&lt;br /&gt;
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:Meeting Closed: 23:02 CEST by Gregory&lt;br /&gt;
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