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Agenda PPI General Assembly

---03.07.2021 09:00 UTC / 11:00 CEST---

  • Mumble: mumble.ppi.rocks
  • Audio recording: PiratesOnAir Streaming, recording
https://owncloud.ag-technik.de/s/5WkCb6Px2DMyq7P
https://piratesonair.net/live-stream/

Record of the meeting of the PPI General Assembly

Members of the PPI - Roll Call

Pirate Party of Austria - present
Pirate Party of Belarus - not present
Pirate Party of Belgium - not present
Pirate Party of Brazil - not present
Pirate Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina - not present
Pirate Party of Bulgaria - not present
Pirate Party of Catalonia  ½Vote - present
Pirate Party of Chile - present
Pirate Party of the Czech Republic - present
Pirate Party of Estonia- not present (arrived for the second half)
Pirate Party of France - not present
Pirate Party of Germany - present
Pirate Party of Greece - present
Pirate Party of Hungary - present
Pirate Party of Italy - not present
Pirate Party of Israel - present
Pirate Party of Japan - not present
Pirate Party of Kazakhstan - not present
Pirate Party of Korea - not present
Pirate Party of Latvia - not present
Pirate Party of Luxembourg - not present
Pirate Party of Morocco - not present
Pirate Party of the Netherlands - present
Pirate Party of New Zealand ½Vote - not present
Internet Party of New Zealand ½Vote - present
Pirate Party of Norway - present
Pirate Party of Poland - not present
Pirate Party of Portugal - not present
Pirate Party of Romania - not present
Pirate Party of Russia - present
Pirate Party of Slovakia ½Vote - not present
Pirate Party - Slovakia ½Vote - present
Pirate Party of Slovenia - not present
Pirate Party of Spain ½Vote - not present
Pirate Party of Switzerland - present
Pirate Party of Tunisia - not present
Pirate Party of Turkey - not present
Pirate Party of Ukraine- not present
Pirate Party of Venezuela - not present

Proceedings

  • Quorum established with 14 out of 39 members present. Total potential voting power is 36.
  • Voting power of today's meeting is 12,5. Quorum needed is 12 voting power (at least 1/3 of 36). If/when the "new" Turkey gets accepted, the Turkish vote splits into two halves and the power needed remains the same, increasing the voting power present to 13.

Agenda

(all times in CEST)

10:00 Mumble room opens for last-minute registration
11:00 Start of the GA with opening Statements and roll call
11:30 Board Report
12:00 Short reports by the treasurer, our lay auditors and the Court of Arbitration
13:00 Meal break
13:30 New Member Applications (so far: PPEU, new PP of Turkey)
14:15 Coffee break
14:30 Motions and discussion
16:00 Open discussion/member feedback/closing statements
  • The agenda might change slightly during the proceedings, especially the timing and brakes

Minutes

Bailey: Agenda approved with no objections. I will be chairing at the start and Gregory is the backup. Mike is the secretary, Keith is backup. We shall be voting in the mumble rooms.

Board Report

Link to the full Board Report: https://etherpad.pp-international.net/p/Board_Report_July_3rd_2021_(PPI_GA)

Bailey: As you know, the PPI Board is meeting every 3 weeks, currently Wednesdays at 14:00 UTC/16:00 CEST on Big Blue Button. Much of PPI's activities has been centered around bringing our members together to share ideas and best practices for organizing in the global Pirate Movement, whether that be around campaigning and public relations work, IT, fundraising, UN work or whatever topic comes up. This usually happens through various meetings of our Standing Committees that focus on particular areas. To give you a refresher, we have the following PPI Standing Committees:
  • SCENE (campaigning)
Standing Committee on External Networking Engagement
This committee specializes in campaigning, media and public relations and sharing of knowledge and good practices in this field among our members.
In February we held a meeting about campaigning during COVID-19 where our members shared their strategies and challenges they were facing while campaigning for upcoming elections during a pandemic. We will be holding another meeting of the same kind in August as there are more elections coming up later this year.
We have done our best to signal boost our members' activities and campaigns on social media and provide as much moral and practical support as possible.
We have an actual social media team now
Pirate Times is back and getting active again and we hope it will continue to grow and that all of you will write for it!
  • SCUBA (United Nations)
Standing Committee on UN Bureaucratic Activities
This committee specializes in PPI's membership in the UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), all UN events as well as conferences we are organizing or invited to participate in.
Usually there is a lot of UN activity for us to participate in however it has been largely put on hold due to the pandemic and lack of grounds passes. There are online events but usually they are short notice, making it harder to coordinate the team's participation on time.
Holding the ECOSOC consultative status, time came for us to submit our very first quadrennial report describing our activities in the past four years. As there was a limit on how long the report can be, let me tell you, it was a challenge to fit everything in. But this means we should have another 4 years of membership in ECOSOC before our next report.
Geneva and Vienna are open again for events, and New York is opening up. We can presume that UN events around the world will be increasing, and there should be even more opportunities for PPI to organize and participate in UN activities. This means that we can now process groundspasses for 2021. We have a total limit of about 20 main representatives who can get annual groundspasses, and another 20 temporary passes. The board will consider requests from our members to participate in events. It is preferable to process temporary passes for those who will visit one event, and permanent passes for those who reside near each of the UN centers or will definitely attend more than once.
  • SCULL (internal processes)
Standing Committee on Universal Liaison on Party Labour (internal processes of member parties)
This committee specializes in the internal processes of various Pirate Parties around the world and exchange of best practices in this field.
We held a meeting to discuss systems for managing membership data. We discussed how parties manage data, tools we use, best practices, legal issues, and supported an initative by PPNL to start working on a decentralized, member-controlled system at the international level.
  • SCURVY (party finances)
Standing Committee on Usual Requisitions of Various Yields
This committee specializes in economics, fundraising and exchange of best practice in this field.
We held meetings about membership due collections and crypto funds. We should have a more formal meeting to work with the DAO and governance mechanisms.
We have been looking into setting up a PPI webshop, which we hope to launch this year. We would also like to use this to help promote our members' webshops.
  • Joint PPI-PPEU Working Group
We participated in joint board meetings with PPEU and spoke at some of their events. In general we are building a closer relationship with PPEU and we received a request for their observer membership in PPI. We are working on coordinating data sharing and other forms of collaboration.

Many of our main "IRL" activities, such as physical participation in the UN events or organizing conferences have been on hold due to the pandemic. For example the Think Twice 4 conference should have taken place in Prague in April 2020 but obviously it did not, nor did we risk organizing the conference for this year. However, these days we are becoming more optimistic, as the world fights COVID by vaccination and things start to return to normal in some parts of the world. That said, the traditional International Pirate Summer Camp in Poland starts in two weeks and the attendance should be decent (registrations open at http://ps21.eventbrite.com/ ). Similarly, there is hope for the TT4 and our UN activities to get back on track, as the UN offices are slowly starting to issue grounds passes and we should see more and more physical events going forward. We have submitted a proposal to participate in the Internet Governance Forum again this year and just last week PPI was represented at EuroDIG.

Of course, we also have to mention our social events, lovingly adopting the name of "Pirate Beer", which is still a hit and continues to be an open, informal space with both fun and legitimate brainstorming. We switched to a fully automated model of one Pirate Beer a month, alternating monthly between the last Friday or Saturday of the month. We have started to change the time around once in a while and incorporate more activities such as BarCamps and cookouts in an effort to be less Eurocentric (9 PM European time used to be the norm for these events) and less centered around intoxication. For example, on April 24th we moved the start time to 19:30 European for the Pirate Cookout and just last Saturday to 14:00 European for tea and crumpets, attempting to better accommodate our non-European members.

Yutyo (PPTR): I want to ask about our membership? If we get half of a vote with the other party.
Bailey: We'll get to the membership applications later today, but the Board doesn't have the power to take away the membership.
Mike: We will definitely have the CoA look into the inactive parties, but it has not been functioning well recently.
Gregory: We only just started recording, but I hope Pirates on Air have been recording as per usual. (- yes, recording is on since the beginnig). So this meeting is being recorded, and whoever is not liked to be recorded should refrain from saying anything.
Gregory: We've managed to two previously unreachable CoA members since this meeting started, s othe CoA should start their work.

Short reports by the treasurer, our lay auditors and the Court of Arbitration

Bastian: I will make short treasurer report:
The Triodos bank account had a last known balance of 7,491.67 EUR, but this was the balance from 12.01.2011.
We have a living postfinance bank account with a balance of 30th of June with 5,064.48 EUR.
We also have a PayPayl; last balance is 955.25 CHF; we also have 532.89 USD in Bitcoin 146.06 USD
We have an empty cashbox.
We have some liabilities from the 2013 Think Twice Conference, and maybe it is fixed. We have an overdraft of the 2014 Think Twice Conference. The outstanding amounts might have been settled.
We have some costs for maintenance that were donated until the end of 2017

.

Our invoices are currently on hold. Other liabilities are not known to me. We have no receivable claims.
For transparency all of our finances are posted to the Wiki. I discovered some minor errors, but the accounts are correct now.
I still do not have access to the bank account or cryptocurrency account, and maybe we can fix that in the near future.

Full report: https://owncloud.ag-technik.de/s/LMJmZeLErHj6RWk

Marco: Court of Arbitration: The CoA has problem with unability to reach 2/4 members. Now I received a couple of e-mails, so we should find a solution soon. But now we're paralyzed, unable to reach the quorum.
Bailey: You certainly need to look into the inactive members. When the roll call happened today, a bunch of parties gets mentioned who we know are inactive, but only the CoA can deal with that. We look forward to hear more from you in the future.
Yutyo: How does the process of eliminiating a party works?
Marco: We can declare if a member is inactive. In the last hour I've seen e-mails from our missing members, so we will come up with a solution soon. We see if a member is non-existent. There's also the option to move the members to observer membership. I will read up on the statutes, whether we actually have the power to demote a member by ourselves (the CoA), or whether GA has to ultimately do it.
Bastian: I looked into the Wiki, all four CoA members are alive; is the problem in the lack of communication? Maybe I can help with the communication; it's a pity the CoA wasn't in touch.
Marco: We are in touch with Stephanie.
Gregory: We had a wrong e-mail for Markus, so he didn't receive the e-mails.
  • Current members of CoA:
Marco Confalonieri PP-IT
Ohad Shem Tov PP-IL
Stéphanie Schintgen PP-LU
Markus Barenhoff PP-DE
Marco: I looked it up - the CoA has the power to demote the members and it can be appealed by the GA.

New Member Applications

  • PPEU (Pirate Party Europe) for observer membership

https://ga.pp-international.net/t/observer-membership-application-of-the-ppeu/337

Bailey: First we have observer membership application for PPEU.
Mikuláš : I am here as the current serving chairperson of the PPEU. We are 18 members, who are full and observer members. The main scope is to cover European politics. European bodies. We represent Pirate policies on behalf of our members. We are currently cooperating with representatives serving on the European parliament. The organization is represented at the council. I am ready to answer any questions. Thank you for your welcome.
Gregory: I believe that in the last PPEU council meeting, there was a discussion about joining the PPI as an observer (as PPI is an observer within the PPEU). Can you elaborate on the potential benefits and fields of cooperation?
Mikuláš: Personal data sharing is the most pressing issue; it doesn't really work both ways; we have a lot of IT systems on both sides and the tasks for both of the organisations are somewhat overlapping and it makes sense should this Pirate cooperation be facilitated smoothly without legal obsatcles.
Formozov: What kind of perspective does the PPEU has on the various elections happening?
Mikuláš: There will be two important elections in September (Iceland and Germany). In October we have an election in the Czech Republic, fighting for having the prime minister, but we're currently under fire from all sides. There will also be an election in Slovenia, hopefully getting into parliament and it seems we should also keep our two MSs in the Luxembourg parliament.
Formozov: There are elections on the national level; is there a way to help Pirates from member parties in any way?
Mikuláš: The MEPs are expected to represent all EU citizens, so for example we have a common project with Greek Pirates asking the EU Commission looking into how EU money is being spent in Greece. We're also looking into Slovak corruption cases and there is cooperation between Czech and German Pirates. There is a lot of options for cooperation; I'm more than happy to discuss this in detail. We can surely help to get some Pirates into the media for example.
Marianna: There will be elections in Hungary in 2022. No official Pitate Parties, but is there a possibility to cooperate with anti-establishment parties similar to Pirates?
Mikuláš: It's possible to admit members without "Pirate" in their name, but they need to share our values. Having such parties as observers is perfectly possible. We need to get established in European politics and I would love to discuss this with the Hungarian Pirates.
Gregory: PPI also doesn't require to have "Pirate" in their name anymore.
Bailey: If there's no other questions, we should vote:


Motion
Accepting PPEU as an observer member of the PPI
* Does PPI accept PPEU as an observer member?
Yes : 12.5
No : 0
Abstain : 0
Result: Motion passed - PPEU accepted as an observer member.


  • Voting block:
    • Pirate Party of Austria - yes
    • Pirate Party of Catalonia ½Vote - yes
    • Pirate Party of Chile - yes
    • Pirate Party of the Czech Republic - yes
    • Pirate Party of Germany - yes
    • Pirate Party of Greece - yes
    • Pirate Party of Hungary - yes
    • Pirate Party of Israel - yes
    • Pirate Party of the Netherlands - yes
    • Internet Party of New Zealand ½Vote - yes
    • Pirate Party of Norway - yes
    • Pirate Party of Russia - yes
    • Pirate Party - Slovakia ½Vote - yes
    • Pirate Party of Switzerland - yes
  • "New" PP Turkey for membership

https://ga.pp-international.net/t/membership-application-of-new-pptr/319/2

Bailey: The "new" Pirate Party Turkey is asking for a regular membership.
Tan Siret (Yutyo): We're founding a new party, because the old one is inactive for five years now. We're a youth Pirates and our country has a need for a Pirate Party. We're looking forward to promoting liberty in our party. Every party in Turkey supports freedom only for themselves and not others. We need to support freedom for everyone. We must enjoy freedom of speech like the western countries. We want to be a member of the PPI so we can cooperate with your parties.
Fromozov: There was a link published on Discourse. I think in general the agenda is very consistent with other Pirate Parties. In the economic section there is a clear tendency leaning towards Marxist ideology. I have nothing against that, but I don't think it's necessary. I would suggest to revise the economic section and make the party accessible to everyone, not just working classes. At the moment this point is too narrow and should be mopre inclusive.
Tan Siret: We had a meeting two weeks ago to include right-wing libertarians as well. In general, we have a sympathy for cooperativism. We decided to include cooperativism within the party. I would say rather than Marxist we have more of big-tent libertarian tendencies.
Formozov: We should keep an eye on this section, as I think it should be re-written.
Gregory: I also looked at your statutes. Something might be lost in the translation, but it seems to me that your statutes define a very powerful position for party chairman, even having a veto over GA decision and apppoint the senate (judiciary). My question is what was the reasoning behind that? Also how often does the GA need to meet? Also I see you had a leadership change in March, but I couldn't find any minutes to see how that took place.
Tan Siret: We give too much power to the chair, inspired by the Pirate Party Australia. The old Turkish party had a committee and couldn't control the party. Now we have a balance between the general secretary and the president. Many parties in Turkeyalso use this model. As far as the minutes go, some decisions are made by myself or the president due to lack of attendance. We're not founded yet and we will address the question of a proper committee when we get founded.
Mikuláš: I'm glad to hear we'll have a partner in Turkey. I have a question about whether does your party have a stance on Kurdistan (and separatism) and the Amrenian Genocide.
Tan Siret: The east of the party is so poor because of the government as well as because of the Kurdish separatism. We can see in the middle east that internally divided parties are not stable. It might be hard to understand for westerners, but we don't like the western position on the Armenian genocide. All countries do bad things in their past but we need to look into the future. We have more centrist position.
Pat: You said you're not officially founded yet and that you have only a few members. So how many members do you have, any overlap with tzhe old PPTR?
Tan Siret: We have a committee big enough to found a party; app 30 active people, 10 on the committee and up to 65 members.
Pat: I wonder whether you had any discussion on how do you see Turkey in the NATO? I see it as a group protecting democracy and Turkey isn't really doing that from my POV.
Tan Siret: We want Turkey to be neutral. We oppose to be in the NATO, but also don't wan't to be close to Russia or China.
René: It's my understnding that the Kurdish and Armenian question stems from general Pirate wilingness to accept the genocides of the past. In principle, we object to any aggression to other people. I get it's difficult to be Turkish and have a hard statement on these things, but if PPTR will participate, we need to find out what your opinions are on these things. I would also like a short statement on your Marxist positions.
Tan Siret: I had lost my cousin to the civil war in the east, so I'm a bit hot tempered in these questions. We think Turkey needs better relations with Armenia and Syria and Turkey needs to get rid of its current nationalistic stand. Our party is curently libertarian, supporting free market economy, but I wouldn't say we're Marxist party. PPTR is pacifist.
Marianna: Suggestion: for authoritarian countries like Turkey, Hungary and Belarus for example would it be possible to have more lax conditions when it comes to being officially registered? Authoritarian governments doeverything in their power to block the operation of those organizations.
Tan Siret: The party wasn't officially founded in the past ten years because founding a party in Turkey is made really hard. We are trying to be neutral so we can be more easily accepted as a registered party.
Gregory: There is no requirement for being official registered in our statutes. But there is a requirement, that the applicant should be internally organized according to the democratic principles.
Tan Siret: I would say in comparison to other Turkish parties, we're quite democratic.
Formozov: I think it's important for the Pirate Parties to organise correctly from the beginning. Internal democracy should be the main thing when deciding on acceptance on new members. It's not an intention to block or demotivate people; we should support you and being Russian I get how hard it is to do politics under hard conditions. I would suggest that we fix the issues raised here - the program should be adjusted and the internal organisation would be more in line with other PPs. Turkey being a presidential regime liek in Russia, with some feudal inclinations. So there's even more need to organise ourselves right. I would ask you re-organise your internal structure ina proper way. To better preserve the Pirate values.
Tan Siret: The internal structure is something we can change at our next GA. The committee decides on stuff. If we don't get accepted to the PPI, these changes and attracting other people will be harder.
Marianna: In anto-establishment parties in authoritarian vountries you need to be super careful who hou entrust with confidential information. You can be sent down for that. There mist be unanimous agreement who to take as members. Somple majority is not enough
Mikuláš: I would suggest that we create working group to help with the process of improving and helping the PPTR. So it fits all the Pirate standards.
Tan Siret: We have people from the old PPTR who helped us organise. The current party are the result of old Pirates giving advice to the new party.
PPCAT and PPGR: Both parties are vouching for the new PPTR.
Formozov: I think it makes sense to have an internal commission on helping the PPTR. If we approve the PPTR and leave it without control, the question is what standards we have for new members, if we overlook this.
Tan: I am OK for a PPI lobby within PPTR to help us organize.
PPCH: We vouch for the PPTR for observer membership only at the moment.
Bastian: Procedural motion for a straw poll whether we postpone the vote for the next GA?
  • Straw poll on the vote taking place today:
    • Pirate Party of Austria - Yes
    • Pirate Party of Catalonia ½Vote - Yes
    • Pirate Party of Chile - Yes
    • Pirate Party of the Czech Republic - yes
    • Pirate Party of Germany - no
    • Pirate Party of Greece - yes
    • Pirate Party of Hungary - Yes
    • Pirate Party of Israel - Yes
    • Pirate Party of the Netherlands - no
    • Internet Party of New Zealand ½Vote - Yes
    • Pirate Party of Norway - Yes
    • Pirate Party of Russia - yes
    • Pirate Party - Slovakia ½Vote - Yes
    • Pirate Party of Switzerland - no
Motion
Do we vote on accepting the new PPTR today?
Do we vote on accepting the new PPTR today?
Yes : 9.5
No : 3
Abstain : 0
Result: Motion passed - we shall vote today


Formozov: We need to support the PPTR, within a year, we need to help the PPTR to be aligned with the other Pirate Parties.
Bailey: We should proceed to the vote. Split the chamber.
Motion
New PPTR membership.
Do we accept the "new" PPTR as a member?
Yes : 9.5
No : 3
Abstain : 0
Result: Motion passed - the new PPTR is accepted as an ordinary member.


  • Voting block:
    • Pirate Party of Austria - yes
    • Pirate Party of Catalonia ½Vote - yes
    • Pirate Party of Chile - yes
    • Pirate Party of the Czech Republic - yes
    • Pirate Party of Germany - no
    • Pirate Party of Greece - yes
    • Pirate Party of Hungary - yes
    • Pirate Party of Israel - yes
    • Pirate Party of the Netherlands - no
    • Internet Party of New Zealand ½Vote - yes
    • Pirate Party of Norway - yes
    • Pirate Party of Russia - yes
    • Pirate Party - Slovakia ½Vote - yes
    • Pirate Party of Switzerland - no
Bailey: I suggest we have a 30 minute break. Proceedings will resume at 14:00 CEST / 12:00 UTC.
Bailey: Back from break

Members of the PPI - Roll Call

Pirate Party of Austria - present
Pirate Party of Belarus - not present
Pirate Party of Belgium - not present
Pirate Party of Brazil - not present
Pirate Party of Bosnia and Herzegovina - not present
Pirate Party of Bulgaria - not present
Pirate Party of Catalonia  ½Vote - present
Pirate Party of Chile - present
Pirate Party of the Czech Republic - present
Pirate Party of Estonia- present
Pirate Party of France - not present
Pirate Party of Germany - present
Pirate Party of Greece - not present
Pirate Party of Hungary - present
Pirate Party of Italy - not present
Pirate Party of Israel - present
Pirate Party of Japan - not present
Pirate Party of Kazakhstan - not present
Pirate Party of Korea - not present
Pirate Party of Latvia - not present
Pirate Party of Luxembourg - not present
Pirate Party of Morocco - not present
Pirate Party of the Netherlands - present
Pirate Party of New Zealand ½Vote - not present
Internet Party of New Zealand ½Vote - present
Pirate Party of Norway - present
Pirate Party of Poland - not present
Pirate Party of Portugal - not present
Pirate Party of Romania - not present
Pirate Party of Russia - present
Pirate Party of Slovakia ½Vote - not present
Pirate Party - Slovakia ½Vote - present
Pirate Party of Slovenia - not present
Pirate Party of Spain ½Vote - not present
Pirate Party of Switzerland - present
Pirate Party of Tunisia - not present
Pirate Party of Turkey ½Vote - not present
The "new" Pirate Party of Turkey ½Vote - present
Pirate Party of Ukraine- not present
Pirate Party of Venezuela - not present
  • We have 13 out of 12 needed; we have a quorum.

Motions and discussion

Gregory: The quorum has been re-established and we move to motions and discussions. The first motion is


  • Membership fee tier system functionality (PPCZ)
https://ga.pp-international.net/t/membership-fee-tier-system-functionality/334
Mike: It is less of a motion and more of an issue for discusssion. The Czech Pirate party would like to discuss how well the current fee system is working. How the board asks the members to pay and whether they actually pay. Those who don't have to pay, because they are nascent, whether in fact are they active. The problem of parties that are not required to pay, and they don't even respond, it is not because they are supposed to pay or they do not exist. This is a flaw that we created in Munich. I would like to have a general discussion on this topic.
Veronika: Looking at the accounts, the actual payments of the fees appear to be missing. What I would like to ask is would it be possible to have a list of each party with a tier to see which tier they belong to. For some parties we can work it out ourselves, because we know where those parties stand. For those parties present, I would like to hear from the delegates to comment on that.
Veronika: Looking at the accounts, the actual payments of the fees appear to be missing. What I would like to ask is would it be possible to have a list of each party with a tier to see which tier they belong to. For some parties we can work it out ourselves, because we know where those parties stand. For those parties present, I would like to hear from the delegates to comment on that.
Roland: Pirate Party of Austria is emerging. I think the current system is working. We are trying to pay upfront. I think that PPI needs to send out invoices. That is the only thing that I would like to change. Otherwise, I think it is a pretty fair system.
Tan: I think the current system is pretty good. The new parties are not stressed if they don't have funds. In Turkey if we don't have funds from the state, unless we are a big party, so I think for the poor parties that they can be in the lower tier. I agree with MIke that the CoA needs to be active with the issues that occur in the PPI.
William: I would like to know how PPNO is listed as mature and established.
Mike: The first column is my initial estimate, the second column shows the correct categorization.
Roland: Four tiers definition:
Mature members are established members that also receive regular state funding, have elected officials at state or regional level, and/or have elected officials at local level who receive compensation. (fulfill at least two).
Established members are emerging members that also have paying members and run for elections on a regular basis (fulfill all).
Emerging members are Nascent members that also collect donations (fulfill all).
Nascent members have regular statutory activities, such as general assemblies and run activism projects (fulfill all).
Jo: Funding is somewhat based on three years cycles over here. Sometimes we have money and sometimes we don't.
Mike: Lists all the parties who haven't declared their tier and are present today.
Mark: We haven't paid yet.
Märt: We have discussed this in the Estonian party and we don't have any financing.
Gregory: In that case you're nascent, which is 0 EUR. Answering Russia: you have as much as time as you need to fill it in.
Formozov: Do the party in different tiers have different rights?
Gregory: No, all are equal, no matter the tier.
Link to the table: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ouOGpsP-uO21UwSe1XfWrlEtXfS4olJYBR-_CZP5Fzg/edit#gid=0
Veronika: quoting: "Any Ordinary Member which has failed to pay its annual affiliation fee up to and including the end of the fiscal year preceding the General Assembly meeting shall forfeit its right to vote at that meeting of the General Assembly, unless remission or postponement of dues has received prior authorization from the Board.Remission or postponement should be obtained along with the submission of delegates for the general assembly if not before."
  • A PPI DAO: Discussion (PPIL)
Link to full proposal: https://ga.pp-international.net/t/a-ppi-dao-discussion/327/
Link to demo: https://ga.pp-international.net/t/a-ppi-dao-discussion/327/13
Keith: It's based on two prior PPI decisions. In 2017 I established a Hot Wallet to be able to accept crypto currencies. Nowadays, crypto currencies isn't just a method of payment but also governance platforms etc. Now we've been approached by Aragon, an NGO promoting digital democracy. There's a lot of different directions this can go. It would be open source on GitHub. Some of us are very knowledgeable on this topic, some not at all. But we seem to be an organisation well suited for
Gregory: For me this topic was completely new and I would ask Keith to explain the DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization) a bit.
Veronika: I would like to ask the same; I noticed it should also be a system for granting voting tokens. Would that be possible to vote with 1/2 votes in DAO?
Keith: Some of our member parties are operating in countries at a threat of being shut down. The DAO would allow them to have their sub-DAOs, which would be an electronic body that can't be shut down by any government.
Jo: Great to see it progressing - IPnz are in support of progression to technology co-mingling with democracy. Thanks for your efforts! PPs making this is nice to see. We are here to help if needed.
Formozov: I think it's an exciting direction to take, for us and other organisations. From the practical point of view: what are the plans at the moment? What can be realistically done with it?
Keith: The platform is still in beta testing stage. We would need to do a bunch of test votes and then discuss amongst ourselves on how to use it.
Formozov: Is their any way to get feeling of this technology without having to wait?
Keith: At Aragon.org (https://aragon.org/aragon-voice) you can try their demo. On the discourse is link to a demo of what the system will look like.
Gregory: Keith, you spoke of the sub-DAOs - what could it be used for?
Keith: These sub-DAO can use the tokens for whatever they want. It's open source so everyone can copy it.
René: We're currently busy trying to implement ICT for liquid democracy, so we support PPI's ambition in this respect.
Keith: There is an external team developing is willing to work with us. I should note that there isn't option yet to delegate votes. Two levels.
René: Could we use it just for internal purposes as a local Pirate Party?
Keith: Yes, anyone can take this and make their own copy. It was a bit premature to write-up a motion (now withdrawn). I hope some of our members will be involved in helping making it work.
Gregory: So member party can clone the system or use the PPI's sub-DAOs and use that for their own system. We never do something just in PPI and not the members in mind. It needs to be open source. The people from Aragon had done this already for commercial projects. They have donated to us some crypto and are commited to this project. We have a chance to create something unique. 10 years ago we've been closely associated with liquid feedback which many of our parties moved away from now.
Noam: I think it's exciting implementing DAO infrastructue and blockchain voting, as until today voting was though as "notes and ballots" and now we can thing of voting in a cryptocurrency infrastructure, where a vote can be delegated or split, keeping it secure, private and transparent.
Phygital: I would suggest to start asap, create an action group and celebrate with an NFT (for advertisment). pirate party should be first party in this digital world/economy. Aragon is well-known in the space.
Keith: We need to schedule a meeting of SCURVY committee where we can discuss this in more detail and create some kind of a road map.
Pat: How do you assure that you'll avoid the same problems as with liquid feedback? Such as the transfer of tokens by inactive people?
Keith: The DAO members would be parties, so that's how things would be decided. We'd need to have rules.
Gregory: Addressing the problem Pat mentioned: the idea would be to make the tokens time-bombed, destroying themselves if not used. If you participate, you'll have proof of work and get a new token for every participation. There are options. Are there any other people who would like to speak or table anything else?
Gregory: The I would like to plug the Pirate Summer in Poland, taking place July 17 to August 1; we usually had like 15 people, workshops, trips and such. Now the situation is good coronawise, so we still have places open, so I really invite everyone to come and join us, not necessarily for the whole two weeks. An employer might even count this as training instead of vacation leave even. EU borders are finally open, but it heavily depends on what country one travels from.
It starts at 18 euro per night (adults), including food. The maximum price is 35 euros. We are doing this as the 42 Foundation and Pirates without Borders. If you have any questions you should ask them.
Then I have the question of Pirate Times. Once we had over 60 people participating; then we saw times without anything happening and Bastian now transferred everything to a new domain. We want to restart the PT as a medium reporting on our work in multiple languages and about all our countries. So we're asking you to spread the word and get potential authors, editors, illustrators or translators to join the team. We need external authors to generate content. In terms of viewers, we already have 3-6 thousand visitors per day. If yo want to write for Pirate Times, join us.
Mauricio: How can someone join the Pirate Times?
Bastian: There are contacts on piratetimes.info and there are contacts there. Or just write me an e-mail.
Gregory: Any other topics for discussion? Then I have one more: We have people from around the world here and I would like to ask for help with the Freedom to Share initiative. It advocates for allowing people to share copyrigthed material online and on the same time, to compensate the content creators in a fair way. We need to collect 1.000.000 signatures accross Europe by 1st of August 2022 and the proposal would be discussed by the EU Commission if limits are reached.Thanks to that proposal we could eliminate upload filters and having open wifis again, because the scary lawyers would be out of work. - We are looking for organisations to join as supporters and also for regional coordinators, as it is a lot to do, and we cannot do everything centralized and online.
For outside of the EU we can setup other means, like petitions that demand the same implementation.
Bailey: Before we start to close thing, I would like to thank everyone to be here and participating, it really means a lot. We will meet again in December as per usual. Welcome to our new members and congratulations. I would like to invite you to Saturday August 7th 16:00 CEST, when we'll be discussing campaigning during the pandemic. If you've or will be going through an election, come and share your experience.
We'll also send you an invite for bar camp during the Summer Camp. Just like last year. Also feel free to get involved with the Pirate Times, even if you have opinion pieces to publish. The same goes for the PPI website. Send us anything that you consider interesting for the international audience. We're also interested in you feedback about the baord work. Just reach out. And see you soon.
Mark: Thank you for the great GA. I enjoyed it, as it was my first one. The Freedom to Share initiative - we would like to use it to get more members for the PPNL. If the people sign directly ona pad, one can follow to try and get people to join the party at the same time.
Gregory: We applied to host an exhibition booth in Katowice at the IGF, probably both physical and online. If you have members that would like to travel there, let us know - we'll need to staff the booth and we don't really have the people yet. We could present the DAO implementation at that booth, and network with activists about various projects.
Veronika: Thank you all!
Bailey: In the meantime before the December GA, we're looking forward to see you at any of our events. It's currently 15:23 CEST / 13:23 UTC and the meeting is officially closed.
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