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2018 General Assembly, Saturday Nov. 3, Sunday Nov. 4, and Saturday Nov. 10

Keynote & Opening of the General Assembly

  • [INSERT TIME] Meeting opened by Guillaume Saouli
+- 30 People in attendance at the event
+- 30 People in attendance online
  • Chair of the meeting: Vojtech Pikal
  • Cochairs: Guillaume Saouli, Bailey Lamon
  • Secretaries of the meeting: Rico Brouwer, Keith Goldstein
  • Secretary for Online Delegates: Raymond Johansan
  • Ballot Counters: Thomas Gaul
  • Agenda
https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018/ProposedAgenda

Vote: Agenda was approved.

  • Outline for the Conference
https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018
  • Keynotes by: Naomi Colvin, Marketa Gregorova , Adam Wolf, Barrett Brown, Cédric Levieux (PPFR)

Present are:

  • 16 Member Countries Present

Table of Parties registered (Number presents the voting power)

  • Austria Pirate Party Austria 1
  • Belarus Pirate Party Belarus 0
  • Belgium Pirate Party Belgium 0
  • Bosnia and Herzegovina 0
  • Brazil Partido Pirata do Brasil 1
  • Bulgaria Pirate Party Bulgaria 0
  • Catalonia Catalonia Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) 1
  • Croatia Pirate Party Croatia 0
  • Czech Republic Pirate Party Czech Republic 1
  • Estonia Pirate Party Estonia 1
  • Finland 0
  • France Parti Pirate France 1
  • Germany Piratenpartei Deutschland 1
  • Greece Pirate Party Greece 0
  • Hungary 0
  • Israel Pirate Party Israel 1
  • Italy Partito Pirata Italiano 1
  • Japan Pirate Party Japan 0
  • Kazakhstan Pirate Party Kazakhstan 0
  • Latvia Pirātu Partija 0
  • Luxembourg Pirate Party Luxembourg 1
  • Morocco Pirate Party Morocco 0
  • Netherlands Pirate Party Netherlands 1
  • New Zealand Pirate Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) 0
  • New Zealand Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote)1
  • Norway Piratpartiet 1
  • Poland Pirate Party Poland 1
  • Portugal Partido Pirata Portugues 1
  • Romania Pirate Party Romania 0
  • Russia Pirate Party Russia 1
  • Slovakia Pirate Party Slovakia 0
  • Slovenia Pirate Party Slovenia 0
  • South Korea 0
  • Spain Pirate Party Spain (1/2 vote) 0
  • Switzerland Pirate Party Switzerland 1
  • Tunisia Pirate Party Tunisia 1
  • Turkey Pirate Party Turkey 0
  • Ukraine Pirate Party Ukraine 0

Total Memebers: 38 Total voting power: 36 Required present voting power: 12 Required present members: 12.7 Total Registered members: 18 Total Registered voting Power: 17

Table of countries present in meeting at 10.10AM

RUNDOWN OF PARTIES PRESENT IN VENUE ROOM PRESENT indicates present in the room REMOTE indicates present through online participation second count 11.20

  • Austria Pirate Party Austria REMOTE
  • Brazil Partido Pirata do Brasil REMOTE
  • Catalonia Catalonia Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) REMOTE
  • Czech Republic Pirate Party Czech Republic LOCAL PRESENT REMOTE
  • France Parti Pirate France REMOTE
  • Germany Piratenpartei Deutschland LOCAL PRESENT
  • Israel Pirate Party Israel PRESENT REMOTE
  • Luxembourg Pirate Party Luxembourg PRESENT
  • Netherlands Pirate Party Netherlands PRESENT REMOTE
  • New Zealand Internet Party of New Zealand REMOTE (1/2 Vote at Present)
  • Norway Piratpartiet PRESENT REMOTE
  • Poland Pirate Party Poland REMOTE (not present at 11.20)
  • Portugal Partido Pirata Portugues REMOTE
  • Russia Pirate Party Russia REMOTE
  • Switzerland Pirate Party Switzerland REMOTE PRESENT
  • Tunisia Pirate Party Tunisia REMOTE

Sum of Parties Present Remotely: 14 Sum of Parties Present in Person: 7 Sum of Parties Attending: 15 (16 if Poland is present)

Delegates Enrolled

  • Russia
*Alexander Abrosov,  Alexander Isavnin,  Vladimir Savelev
  • Netherlands
*Rico Brouwer,  Jonathan van Dijken,  Dmitri Schrama,  Jelle Dirk Pasterkamp
  • Norway
*Raymond Johansen,  Svein Mork Dahl
  • Germany
*Patrick Breyer,  Alexander Spies,  Thomas Gaul,  Bastian,  Gregory Engels,  Jens Stomber,  Michael Sinclair
  • Israel
*Keith Goldstein,  Ohad Bar Siman Tov,  Ohad Shem Tov,  Noam Kuzar,  Lidia Mallatin,  Anonymous
  • France
*Cédric Levieux (farlistener),  Etienne Evellin
  • Portugal
*Andre Rosa
  • Tunisia
*Chemseddine BEN JEMAA
  • Czech
*Vojtěch Pikal, Giuseppe Maiello, Lukáš Lev Červinka, Markéta Gregorová, Ladislav Koubek, Michal Gill, Mikuláš Peksa, Matej Šandor, Marek Nečada
  • Switzerland
*Kilian Brogli,  Carlos Polo
  • Luxembourg
*Sven Clement,  Marc Goergen
  • Belgium
*Koen De Voegt, Jan Van Opstal
  • Catalonia
*Dario Castañé, Muriel Rovira Esteva, Kenneth Peiruza, Oliver Herzig, Enric Pineda
  • New Zealand (INPZ)
*Jo Booth
  • Italy
*Aram Gurekian (aka Ronin)
*Alessandro Ciofini (aka Solibo)
  • Austria
*Roland S
  • Poland
*Radosław Pietroń, Piotr Roszatycki
  • Brazil
*Dantas Prazeres, Wilson lira Cardoso, Bemficavbemfica
  • Estonia
*Eero Elvisto
*Märt Põder
  • Quorum is established with 16 present votes out of 36 votes.

Opening Speech by hosts

11:30 - voting on approval of the agenda

11:45 - reports starting

Board Report

Discussion of the Think Twice Conference, Pirate Security Conference, IT consolidation, ECOSOC activities, social media activities, 2.5 million viewers of our outreach, 50-70 messages are broadcast on a daily basis, increase in volunteers as far as NY, use of Discourse and other tech advances, need for support from our members to keep PPI running.

Treasurer Report

Thanks to specific countries that helped out with conferences, but that needs to be changed in the future. We have an outstanding debt for TT2 that we are still repaying. We have server costs that are being deferred, and these costs will continue next year. A budget has been prepared for 2019. Our financial basis at the moment is that we have approximately 1000 euros and 500 euros in Paypal. So, we do not have a strong level of finances at the moment, and we hope to be better funded in the future. The UN work as well will require further funding.
Question from PPCZ about the plan for the budget for the next year. How PPI spends the money, whether it is effective, whether it should be discussed further, and how to move on? They would like to see a report on how funds are used. Will there be opportunities to sponsor ECOSOC visits and other plans?
Question: If PPI was granted 1000 euros, how would PPI use that money? There is debt, projects, and our costs for running the organization.

Lay Auditor Report

Lay Auditors report that the account as of Aug. there are 1147.69 CHF, according to the WIKI. 1140.69 is the balance at present. The Kraken has no funds. The Drexia account was closed. There is a slight discrepency between the statements, but this may be due to the discrepancy. Paypal 538 euros as far as Wiki, confirmed individual transactions. Cashbox discrepancy, which may be due to Euro and CHF, there is no statement. Advise to clean up the Wiki page so that it only shows the current statements.
Question: Will the reports be posted to the WkiThe report will be posted to the Wiki? Yes, all of the reports will be included in the Wiki, and the reports are summarized in these minutes.

Court of Arbitration Report

As our predecessors said :

"The Court of Arbitration had been very lazy. No cases, no meetings no nothing. But we are still alive, hopefully. My suggestion is that you would please respect this situation, because this is a good working atmospehre for the future."


General Assembly Saturday Schedule

  • 08:00 Delegates accreditation + ice breaker
  • 10:00 Opening of the General Assembly - PP Bavaria, hosts
  • 10:45 Formalities: chair, secretary, new members and agenda
  • 11:45 Keynote speech by Naomi Colvin - Whistleblowing
  • 12:30 Chair Report - Board, Treasurer, Lay Auditors and CoA reports
  • 13:15 Lunch
  • 14:15 Speech by Marketa Gregorova - Success in Czechia
  • 15:00 Statutes Amendments aka Changes to Statutes
  • 16:30 Break
  • 16:45 Elections o PPI officers <Board: 1 Chairperson, 3 board members, 1 alternate Board member, Court of Arbitration (3-7 members), Lay Auditors (3 persons)
  • 18:45 Official end of day 1
  • Approval of the reports

<Tallies by parties held by the vote takers and should be added here>

yes 9, no 0, abstain 3.5

motion is passed

  • Discharge of the Board, Treasurer, and Lay Auditors

<Tallies by parties held by the vote takers and should be added here>

yes 9.5, no 0 , abstain 1

motion is passed

  • Approval of the minutes last GAs:
Minutes of the 2017 GA

http://wiki.pp-international.net/Minutes_of_Online_GA_2017-1 https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=Minutes_of_Online_GA_2017-1

  • Pirate Party Austria - ABST
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - ABST
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - ABS
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - YES
  • Parti Pirate France - YES
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - YES
  • Pirate Party Israel - YES
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - YES
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - ABS
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - YES
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - YES
  • Pirate Party Poland - 0
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - YES
  • Pirate Party Russia - ABS
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - YES
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - 0
Yes 8.5, No 0, Abstain 4.5

Motion is passed

Report of the Tech Team

Report by Bastian. Tech team was founded in the past year. There was a need to build a new server, which was successful. There were complications. We have an aim to give support to every party and every organization. Service was continuous, without a break between transition. The Wiki was reorganized. There is now no spam and no spam users on the Wiki. Etherpad lite has been developed for easy use, and teams for difficult use. Redmine was repaired. The database was recovered. If you have questions, there is an email address where you can contact the tech team: support@pp-international.net
Special thanks to Bastian for supporting us.


Keynote Speech by Naom Colvin

Aaron's Law and Other Unfinished Business
Monopoly companies, such as FB, are scared of being broken up. Pressure though is also coming from governments, who are trying to implace limitations on speech. These are limitations that governments do not want to place themselves, but which they try to get companies to do for them. In the UK, there was a petition to ban FB groups. It is dark time, which can depress us. Aaron Swartz, Lauri Love are displayed as examples. There is an issue of the accused being forced into plea bargains. Ruling of Lauri Love stated that the US could not be trusted. There is an unaccountable and mysterious process of extradition. In the case of Lauri, all of the newspapers came out in support of him. Gary McKinnon also faced a similar ordeal of extradition. The precedent of Lauri has been applied for further cases, hence influencing future extradition cases. Pirates and other activists are to thank for assisting. Aaron's law remains unfinished business. The law proposed two changes to the computer fraud act, such as there should be limits to prosecutors and how people are prosecuted. However, Aaron's law got stuck in the US Congress. This is a problem for everyone. International Cyber Crime Convention mirrors the computer fraud and abuse act. About 20 countries have signed up to the convention so far. We should not give up hope, even though Aaron's law is not going anywhere. There is a problem for security research, when someone is trying to do the right thing and gets in trouble for it. The ban on unauthorized access is also a problem for journalism, as journalists can be accused of computer crime law violations. The case of Kemi Badenoch is discussed as a hypocrisy, as a hacker was not punished because she was a conservative MP in the UK. They call this program Prevent, which is shared by the National Crime Agency.

Too many people are being accused under the law, or could be accused under the law, and hence the law should be changed. In the Netherlands they have distinguished between those who are prosecuted based on whether there was some malicious intent. There are several bills that are moving forward in the US and elsewhere about the boundaries of cybersecurity. The revisions are either to change the law or to carve out exceptions to the law. The European Commission is working on whistleblower protections. Germany lacks protections, and there is a need for a wide law to protect whistleblowers. The text surprised people by the amount that it was extensive. There is a broad definition of who gets to claim to be a whistleblower, which is very comprehensive. This may become more contraversial next year when the European Council examines it. If you want to help, contact @auerfeld . naomi@auerfeld.com


Speech by Marketa Gregorova - Success in Czechia

  • Resumed after Lunch 15.15
  • Pirate Party in Czech Republic was established, based on the Swedish model, in 2009. They steadily gained traction until 2017 with 22 out of 200 seats in the parliament. A stable foundation among students helped in their growth. One of the main challenges they faced was to get people to know they even exist. Also they were perceived as a single issue party. To break through that they focused on finance also. Their core claim; ' let us at them!' [let us at the old structures, we will reconstruct them remake them] their approach; get their supporters [who were some of the non-voters, to come out and vote.

their logos were black/white, understandable, clear. They got ignored by media, as they were perceived as rebels, their approach allowed fr a more rebellious approach. They got a large bus, painted provocative cartoons on it of unresolved corruption cases. It was a prison bus. Fundraising was done through a Kickstarter platform. Small donations for clear achievable goals. They hired professional campaigners. Not just for their skils, but aso their network. Politics is about people, not only with politicians but also in media and marketing. Maybe even more so.

  • One of our most viral things were songs. One of our leaders is an accordionist and singer. We created songs. They had a solar boat aso, promoted themselves as greens, and as pirates with the boat. Communications and integral disagreements were an issue in their party also. [like in more Pirate parties] Prague was a large part of their team, they did try to keep connected to the regional Pirates. Centralization didn't really work. When people misconceive you or don't know you, you need to become a relevant player then! team with other competent people. invest in a research about you and yur voters, it is worth more tan a ton of leaflets.

Admittance of new PPI Members

  • No new applications for members.

Issues of Statements

Statements made by Martin, Alex, Vojtech, and Guillaume.

Statutes Amendments

  • Statutes amandes need to be proposed at least 4 weeks beforehead and send out to all members
We need 10 votes (11 if Poland shows up) to
2/3 voting power is required for approval.
  • Full texts of the statute revisions are found within the Discourse:

https://ppi.savvy.ch/c/Proposals/statutes-revision

  • Revisions to Articles XII. Board and XIII. Functions of the Board. Motion “Increase the Board Size”

https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/revisions-to-articles-xii-board-and-xiii-functions-of-the-board-motion-increase-the-board-size/15

Name of the motion : Increase the Board Size
Presentation of the motion : We propose to increase the board size of PPI by 4 members

Keith; as the board we felt we needed a bigger team, need more manpower. counterproposal explanation by Germany:

Gregory, discusses the German rationale for increase by two members.

PPDE proposes that half of the new members are elected for one year, and the other half are elected for two years.

PPDE recommends only increasing the board size by two members.

PPIL would like at least 4 additional board members, owing to the increasing amount of work and human capital that the Board requires.
There was a question from PPCZ about what specific work the board needs help with. A list of vice-secretary positions was explained

a) Vice-Secretary for Member Relations b) Vice-Secretary for International Institutions and NGO Affairs c) Vice-Secretary for International Policies d) Vice-Secretary for Training e) Vice-Secretary for Communications and Social Media f) Vice-Secretary for Conferences and Special Events g) Vice-Secretary for IT (application development and website maintenance)

It was decided that this list does not need to be included in the statutes and can be decided among the board.
The original statute is as follows
(3) The Board is composed of: a) one Chairperson, b) one Vice-Chairperson, c) five additional Board Members
This statute would be changed to 3, 7 (PPDE) or 9 (PPIL).
There is a counter proposal from PPCZ for a smaller board of only 5 members.
Does the GA agree to increase the board size by 0, 2, or 4 members? Or decrease the board by 2 members? (This article would go into effect at the current GA.)
(3) The Board is composed of: a) one Chairperson, b) one Vice-Chairperson, c) five additional Board Members
Section c) of this statute would be changed to 3 (PPCZ), 7 (PPDE) or 9 (PPIL).
Argument to be aware of creating functions, because the board should not be the only body that is working.
Discussion that for UN ECOSOC, WTO, there needs to be formal representation. We have trouble serving our workload. Things like fundraising require a huge amount of hours, and we are falling short. Conference development also needs leadership. The increase in the number of board members is to ensure that the areas that we cover, which has grown, are covered. We need to have more people supporting us from a formal standpoint, and to bring leadership to support working groups. This will also help to get more people involved.
Comment that Pirates keep things simple.
Comment that we have to establish a quorum, so if there are more members it will be more difficult to establish a quorum.
Comment from Etienne that the proposal to increase the board size is a recommendation from board members, who know how much the board works and what they need. People are politically responsible from the GA. The GA can say that they do not like something, but the GA can decide if they want a particular member.
Comment that the board cannot handle all international organizations. Board members could not represent. Discussion that there are not enough funds... The goal should not be that giving a title motivates people to work. Giving someone a title and expecting them to work is how it works in every other party. It should be that people work, so we give them the title.

We are doing a straw pool on what proposal has most support. Winner will be then voted upon according to current statutes by 2/3 majority (11 votes needed)

We are voting to change section c) of statute XII.3, which would be changed from 5 to 3 (PPCZ), 7 (PPDE) or 9 (PPIL). Parties can support no proposals, one proposal, two proposals, or all.

Votes
  • Pirate Party Austria - none
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - none
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 3
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - 3
  • Parti Pirate France - 9
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - 7, 9
  • Pirate Party Israel - 7, 9
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - 3
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - 7
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - 9
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - 7, 9
  • Pirate Party Poland - none
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - 7, 9
  • Pirate Party Russia - 7
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - 7
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - 7, 9

For 3: 2,5 For 7: 8 For 9: 6,5


We are voting whether to increase the number of additional board members to 7. There would be an increase of 2 board members.
Votes
  • Pirate Party Austria - Nay
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - abs
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - nay
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - nay
  • Parti Pirate France - yes
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - yes
  • Pirate Party Israel - yes
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - nee
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - yes
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - yes
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - yes
  • Pirate Party Poland - no
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - yes
  • Pirate Party Russia - yes
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - yes
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - yes

9.5 - yes 4.5 - no 1 - abs

Not passed

  • Article XIII.9. Functions of the Board:
It is requested by PPIL to add the following line to the statutes after XIII.9, which complies with the decision made at the 2015 GA to have standing committees.

“The Board is given the duty to take necessary steps in order to establish a standing committee infrastructure within PPI: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=Decisons_of_GA#Standing_Committees” keith: this is a formality.

Add XIII: (10) The Board is given the duty to take necessary steps in order to establish a standing committee infrastructure within PPI: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=Decisons_of_GA#Standing_Committees”

Votes
  • Pirate Party Austria - yes
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - abs
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - yes
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - abs
  • Parti Pirate France - yes
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - nay
  • Pirate Party Israel - Yay
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - yes
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - yes
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - no
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - no
  • Pirate Party Poland - yes
  • Partido Pirata Portugues -yes
  • Pirate Party Russia - abs
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - no
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - yes

YES: 8.5 NAY: 3.5 ABS: 3

Not passed

  • Revisions to Article XIII.6 Functions of the Board
It is requested by PPIL to add the following line to the statutes, which references the RoP. The original proposal was revised after discussion with other parties.

“The Board shall refer to the Rules of Procedure: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Board/Rules_of_Procedure”

Does the GA agree to include a reference to the RoP in the statutes?
Votes

This revision was rescinded by PPIL.

  • Revisions to Article VII. Termination of Membership
Request by PPIL to remove the requirement of a tenth of Members from three different continents.

(2) The decisions on the changes of Membership, such as suspension, reinstatement and exclusion, fall within the competence of the Court of Arbitration, and can be appealed to the General Assembly. If the Member appeals, the decision becomes effective at the end of the Meeting of the General Assembly, unless the General Assembly decides otherwise. A proposal for decisions on the change of Membership to Court of Arbitration may only be submitted by the Board, or by group of tenth of Ordinary Members.

Does the GA agree to remove the requirement of three different continents and be specific to Ordinary Members?


Does the GA agree to chanche the statutes as follows:

Original text (2) The decisions on the changes of Membership, such as suspension, reinstatement and exclusion, fall within the competence of the Court of Arbitration, and can be appealed to the General Assembly. If the Member appeals, the decision becomes effective at the end of the Meeting of the General Assembly, unless the General Assembly decides otherwise. A proposal for the exclusion of a Member may only be submitted by the Board, or by a tenth of Members from three different continents.

to:

(2) The decisions on the changes of Membership, such as suspension, reinstatement and exclusion, fall within the competence of the Court of Arbitration, and can be appealed to the General Assembly. If the Member appeals, the decision becomes effective at the end of theMeeting of the General Assembly, unless the General Assembly decides otherwise. A proposal for decisions on the change of Membership to Court of Arbitration may only be submitted by the Board, or by group of tenth of Ordinary Members.

Votes
  • Pirate Party Austria - YES
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - ABS
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - YES
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - YES
  • Parti Pirate France - YES
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - JA
  • Pirate Party Israel - Yes
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - YO
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - Ja
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - YES
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - YES
  • Pirate Party Poland - 0
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - YES
  • Pirate Party Russia - YES
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - YEs
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - YEs
Yes - 13
No - 0
Abstain - 1
The motion is passed.

Elections of PPI officers

Board

  • If any members are not listed as nominees that should be please declare it to the GA prior to voting
  • There is a discussion of whether to delay the voting for tomorrow. Some of the online delegates are opposed.

Chairperson

  • Candidates:
Guillaume Saouli
Votes
  • Pirate Party Austria - Yes
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - Abs
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - Yes
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic -Yes
  • Parti Pirate France - Yes
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - Yes
  • Pirate Party Israel - Yes
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - Abs
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - Yes
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
  • Pirate Party Poland - Yes
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - Yes
  • Pirate Party Russia - Yes
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - Yes
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - Yes
The vote is acccepted with 14 Yes (13 votes) and 2 Abstaining.
Guillaume Saouli remains Chairperson of PPI.

Board Members

https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/nomitations-here/74/8

  • We are electing 3 board members.
  • Candidates:
Magnus Andersson - accepts
Sven Clement - accepts
Stanley Cohen - accepts
Etienne Evellin - accepts
Thomas Gaul - accepts
Michal Gill - accepts
Marketa Gregorova - no
Kitty Hundal - accepts
Alexander Isavnin - accepts
Ladislav Koubek - accepts
Sebastian Krone - accepts
Cédric Levieux - accepts


numbered candidates; 1. Magnus Andersson (NO) 2. :Sven Clement (DE) 3. : Stanley Cohen (NO) 3. : Etienne Evellin (NO) 4. Thomas Gaul (FR) 5. Michal Gill () 6 Kitty Hundal 7. Alexander Isavnin 8. Ladislav Koubek 10 .Sebastian Krone 11. Cédric Levieux 12. Adam Wolf

Procedural motion to end session now;

One: end now, continue tommorow Two: end now, present online, vote tomorroe

  • Pirate Party Austria - abs
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - abs
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - abs
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - one
  • Parti Pirate France - two
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - one
  • Pirate Party Israel - abs
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - one
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - one
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) - one
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - one
  • Pirate Party Poland - 0
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - abs
  • Pirate Party Russia - two
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - one
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - one

abs - 4.5 one - 6.5 two - 2

Nobody opposed the motion to end now and continue tommorow at 9:00 as stated in approved agenda

Opening of the Second Day of the General Assembly

Minutes of the PPI GA 2018 Sunday, 4 November 2018 (Munich) Have been copied to the following Wiki: https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Minutes_2018_11_19

  • [INSERT TIME] Meeting opened by Guillaume Saouli
  • Chair of the meeting: Vojtech Pikal
  • Cochairs: Guillaume Saouli, Bailey Lamon
  • Secretaries of the meeting: Rico Brouwer, Keith Goldstein
  • Secretary for Online Delegates: Raymond Johansan
  • Ballot Counters: Thomas Gaul
  • Agenda
https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018/ProposedAgenda
  • Outline for the Conference
https://wiki.pp-international.net/wiki/index.php?title=PPI_Conference_2018

read only link: https://pad.pirati.cz/p/r.8a3bbd198be28dff88b5e263c9517cc6

4.11. 9:00 Technical break to reetablish connection with remotes.


  • Pirate Party Austria -
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil -
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic -
  • Parti Pirate France - r
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland -
  • Pirate Party Israel -
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg -
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - r
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) -
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) -
  • Pirate Party Poland -
  • Partido Pirata Portugues -
  • Pirate Party Russia -
  • Pirate Party Switzerland -
  • Pirate Party Tunisia -


  • There is an announcement at 10:10 am CEST that we after the presentation of Congressus at 10:30 CEST we will check if there are enough members to make Quorum. If not then we will close the meeting and just proceed with presentations. The alternate board members would be promoted to board members, and we will convene the GA online at a later time to votes on the nominations and motions. It was asked if anyone was opposed, and there were no objections.

Establishing quorum

  • IX. (5) The physical or remote presence of Ordinary Members gathering one third of the total voting power shall constitute a quorum.
  • We have 38 members with total voting power of 37.
  • We require 12.3+ voting power to establish the qourum
  • According to Art. I .1 RoP: Any official debate and voting may only continue when a third of Ordinary Members are represented locally or remotely.(St IX(5))

We require 13+ of Ordinary Members to continue debate nd voting

  • Pirate Party Austria - r
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - r
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - r, p
  • Parti Pirate France - r
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - r, p
  • Pirate Party Israel - ｒ,p
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - proxy (PPCZ)
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - proxy(PPNL) r,p
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - r
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - p
  • Pirate Party Poland -
  • Partido Pirata Portugues -
  • Pirate Party Russia - r
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - p
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - p

12 members 11.5 voting power

10:20 reopening

  • Pirate Party Austria - online
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - online
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - here
  • Parti Pirate France - online
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - present
  • Pirate Party Israel - present
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - proxy
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - present
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - remote
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - present
  • Pirate Party Poland -
  • Partido Pirata Portugues -
  • Pirate Party Russia - remote
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - present
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - remote

13 members present 12.5 voting power

  • Quorum is established.
  • Meeting of the GA is opened at 10:24 CEST by Vojtech Pikal

Presentation of Congressus by Cédric Levieux

This is a program that allows you to create texts/laws and other tasks, which can be organized with arguments pro and against. There are votes, which are synchronous and asynchronous. PPFR has used this process for the past two years. A live demonstration was provided.

https://github.com/PartiPirate/congressus

Cedric comments that he does need help with translations, and PPI could be a great venue for making the program more international.

Elections of PPI officers

Board

  • If any members are not listed as nominees that should be please declare it to the GA prior to voting
  • We confirmed the list of members running for the board, and we will vote on this list following the presentation of Congressus.

Election of board members

https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/nomitations-here/74/8

  • We are electing 3 board members.
  • There is a motion that we limit the presentations of board members to one minute. No one objected
  • Candidates:
Magnus Andersson - accepts
Sven Clement - accepts
Stanley Cohen - accepts
Etienne Evellin - accepts
Thomas Gaul - accepts
Michal Gill - accepts
Marketa Gregorova - no
Kitty Hundal - accepts
Alexander Isavnin - accepts
Ladislav Koubek - accepts
Sebastian Krone - accepts, later resinds the nomination
Cédric Levieux - accepts
  • Magnus indicates that he is from PP of Sweden. This is not an indiication that PPSE will rejoin PPI, but he thinks it is a great organization as an umbrella. His contribution will be to make the Board more professional. He will not be able to join until after the EU elections.
  • Sven is not present and his proxy presents. Sven is one of the founding chairpersons in PP Luxembourg. He is one of the longest running chairpersons in all of the pirates.
  • Stanley is not present. He lacks a proxy.
  • Etienne is present online. He is from PPFR. He has a masters in law. He will try to present more technical aspects. He is a technician. He wrote the statutes and rules of proceedures.
  • Michal he mostly works as a translator. He has worked on multiple elections.He has worked on technical systems that PPEU can help.
  • Kitty is online. She is currently working on the Assange campaign. She has a background as a librarian and later in computer science. She is now retired and works to help the persecuted and positive causes such as the Pirate party. She sees the pirate party as a way to create a transitional environment.
  • Alex is online.
  • Ladislav has worked around the world with the UN. He worked as an economist. As a program manager as well. He would like to help with the ECOSOC agenda. Due to his past experience with the UN he can help transform the pirates.
  • Cedric is online. As a French IT guy, he would like to be the PPI IT guy. His main proposal is Edemocracy as shown in Congressus. .
  • Adam is online. He is currently the political director of the pirates in lower Saxon. He is a city councilman for the Pirates. Worldwide free educational concepts and ways of teaching he promotes. He is a former captain who helped mostly refugees in the Mediterranean. He speaks Spanish, German, and English.
  • Thomas has been involved in PPI for a long time. He is a civil engineer.
  • There is a proposal to skip the discussion. There is a formal opposition to skip the discussion.
  • There is a question about what the candidates think about finances and the budget.
  • There is a question remotely: "What is your stance on wikileaks and their alleged collusion with the trump campaign? Do you see Julian Assange's credibility still intact"
(Proceedural order that online participants need to watch the stream and not the Zoom for sound.)
  • Voting is done by ballots. They will be distributed to the representatives. For those not present, proxies will be provided to make your votes.
  • The Chairperson clarified the rules of voting. In the event of a tie there is a runoff between those people. To be elected a person needs a majority of yes votes. 7 majority is needed.
  • Voting is accepted until 12:20.
  • Numbered candidates; (Sponsor) Member Party
1. Magnus Andersson (NO) PPSE
2. Sven Clement (DE) PPLX
3. Stanley Cohen (NO) US
4. Etienne Evellin (NO/FR) PPFR
5. Thomas Gaul (DE) PPDE
6. Michal Gill (CZ) PPCZ
7 Kitty Hundal (NO) Canada
8. Alexander Isavnin (DE)
9. Ladislav Koubek (CZ) PPCZ
10. Cédric Levieux (FR) PPFR
11. Adam Wolf (DE) PPDE
  • Voting List
  • Norway
1.Magnus Andersson - yes
2.Sven Clement - no
3,Stanley Cohen - yes
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - no
6.Michal Gill - yes
7.Kitty Hundal - yes
8.Alexander Isavnin - no
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - no
11.Adam Wolf - no
  • Internet Party New Zealand
1.Magnus Andersson - yes
2.Sven Clement - no
3,Stanley Cohen - yes
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - no
6.Michal Gill - yes
7.Kitty Hundal - yes
8.Alexander Isavnin - no
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - no
11.Adam Wolf - no
  • Pirate Party of Luxembourg
1.Magnus Andersson - yes
2.Sven Clement - yes
3,Stanley Cohen - yes
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - yes
6.Michal Gill - yes
7.Kitty Hundal - yes
8.Alexander Isavnin - yes
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - yes
11.Adam Wolf - yes
  • Brazil
1.Magnus Andersson - abstain
2.Sven Clement - abstain
3,Stanley Cohen - abstain
4.Etienne Evellin - abstain
5.Thomas Gaul - abstain
6.Michal Gill - abstain
7.Kitty Hundal - abstain
8.Alexander Isavnin - abstain
9.Ladislav Koubek - abstain
10.Cédric Levieux - abstain
11.Adam Wolf - abstain
  • Czech
1.Magnus Andersson - yes
2.Sven Clement - yes
3,Stanley Cohen - yes
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - yes
6.Michal Gill - yes
7.Kitty Hundal - yes
8.Alexander Isavnin - yes
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - yes
11.Adam Wolf - yes
  • Israel
1.Magnus Andersson - no
2.Sven Clement - no
3,Stanley Cohen - no
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - yes
6.Michal Gill - no
7.Kitty Hundal - yes
8.Alexander Isavnin - no
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - yes
11.Adam Wolf - no
  • Russia
1.Magnus Andersson - abstain
2.Sven Clement - no
3,Stanley Cohen - no
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - no
6.Michal Gill - yes
7.Kitty Hundal - no
8.Alexander Isavnin -yes
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - yes
11.Adam Wolf - no
  • Portugal
1.Magnus Andersson - yes
2.Sven Clement - yes
3,Stanley Cohen - yes
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - yes
6.Michal Gill - yes
7.Kitty Hundal - yes
8.Alexander Isavnin - yes
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - yes
11.Adam Wolf - yes
  • France
1.Magnus Andersson - no
2.Sven Clement - no
3,Stanley Cohen - no
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - no
6.Michal Gill - no
7.Kitty Hundal - yes
8.Alexander Isavnin - no
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - yes
11.Adam Wolf - yes
  • Tunisia
1.Magnus Andersson - no
2.Sven Clement - no
3,Stanley Cohen - no
4.Etienne Evellin - no
5.Thomas Gaul - yes
6.Michal Gill - no
7.Kitty Hundal - yes
8.Alexander Isavnin - no
9.Ladislav Koubek - no
10.Cédric Levieux - yes
11.Adam Wolf - no
  • Austria
1.Magnus Andersson - yes
2.Sven Clement - yes
3,Stanley Cohen - abstain
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - yes
6.Michal Gill - yes
7.Kitty Hundal - no
8.Alexander Isavnin - abstain
9.Ladislav Koubek - abstain
10.Cédric Levieux - yes
11.Adam Wolf - yes
  • Netherlands
1.Magnus Andersson - yes
2.Sven Clement - no
3,Stanley Cohen - no
4.Etienne Evellin - no
5.Thomas Gaul - no
6.Michal Gill - yes
7.Kitty Hundal - yes
8.Alexander Isavnin - no
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - yes
11.Adam Wolf - no
  • Switzerland
1.Magnus Andersson - no
2.Sven Clement - no
3,Stanley Cohen - no
4.Etienne Evellin - yes
5.Thomas Gaul - yes
6.Michal Gill - no
7.Kitty Hundal - no
8.Alexander Isavnin - no
9.Ladislav Koubek - yes
10.Cédric Levieux - no
11.Adam Wolf - no
  • Germany
1.Magnus Andersson - no
2.Sven Clement - yes
3,Stanley Cohen - no
4.Etienne Evellin - no
5.Thomas Gaul - yes
6.Michal Gill - yes
7.Kitty Hundal - no
8.Alexander Isavnin - yes
9.Ladislav Koubek - no
10.Cédric Levieux - no
11.Adam Wolf - yes


  • Etienne Evellin and Ladislav Koubek are elected with 10 votes each
  • Cédric Levieux, Michal Gill, and Kitty Hundal are in a run-off with 9 votes each.
  • We are having a run-off vote. Each party is allowed one yes vote for either Cédric Levieux, Michal Gill, and Kitty Hundal

Votes for Run-off (Yes votes of each party will be written after the person's name)

  • Cédric Levieux:Austria, Israel,
  • Michal Gill : Norway, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Czech, Germany,
  • Kitty Hundal : Tunisia, France, INPZ, Switzerland,
  • Other (no, abstain, spoiled ballots and such): Portugal, Brazil,
  • Michal Gill has 5 votes.
  • Kitty Hundal has 4 votes
  • Cedric has 2 votes
  • Michal Gill wins the run-off vote
  • The new members of the board are Etienne Evellin, Ladislav Koubek, and Michal Gill

Election of Alternate board members

Comment that the current rules are stupid. We cannot change them, but in the future it would be good to decide the alternates based on the election for the board members.
Point of order. We have nominations on Discourse that were perhaps not recognized. PPDE sponsored Denis Simonet (PPCH), Stefan Thöni (PPCH) for CoA. They are not on the list. We also have a last minute nomination on Zoom of PPTN to nominate Chemseddine Ben Jemaa as an Alternate Board member and the CoA, but we should confirm if a bio is on Discourse.
Additional point of order: There is motion to skip the presentation of candidates.
There is a request of Kitty and Cedric to be alternates, supported by France.
  • We need two alternate board members, as one alternate board members was elected to the board.
  • Voting accepted by email
  • Candidates:
Adam Wolf - accepts
Bastian Krone - no
Thomas Gaul- accepts
Markéta Gregorová- no
Chemseddine Ben Jemaa - accepts
Kitty Hundal - accepts
Cédric Levieux - accepts
  • List of candidates:
  • 1.Adam Wolf
  • 2.Thomas Gaul
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa
  • 4.Kitty Hundal
  • 5.Cédric Levieux
  • Voting Table:

Internet Party Of New Zealand (1/2 vote)

  • 1.Adam Wolf no
  • 2.Thomas Gaul yes
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux yes

Russia

  • 1.Adam Wolf no
  • 2.Thomas Gaul no
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
  • 4.Kitty Hundal no
  • 5.Cédric Levieux yes

Portugal

  • 1.Adam Wolf yes
  • 2.Thomas Gaul yes
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa yes
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux yes

Luxembourgh

  • 1.Adam Wolf no
  • 2.Thomas Gaul no
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux no

Austria

  • 1.Adam Wolf yes
  • 2.Thomas Gaul yes
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa abstain
  • 4.Kitty Hundal no
  • 5.Cédric Levieux yes

Brazil

  • 1.Adam Wolf abstain
  • 2.Thomas Gaul abstain
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa abstain
  • 4.Kitty Hundal abstain
  • 5.Cédric Levieux abstain

Tunisia

  • 1.Adam Wolf abstain
  • 2.Thomas Gaul abstain
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa abstain
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux abstain

Czech Republic

  • 1.Adam Wolf no
  • 2.Thomas Gaul no
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux no

France

  • 1.Adam Wolf yes
  • 2.Thomas Gaul no
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux yes

Germany

  • 1.Adam Wolf yes
  • 2.Thomas Gaul yes
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa abstain
  • 4.Kitty Hundal no
  • 5.Cédric Levieux no

Norway

  • 1.Adam Wolf no
  • 2.Thomas Gaul yes
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux yes

The Netherlands

  • 1.Adam Wolf no
  • 2.Thomas Gaul no
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux yes

Switzerland

  • 1.Adam Wolf no
  • 2.Thomas Gaul yes
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux no

Israel

  • 1.Adam Wolf no
  • 2.Thomas Gaul yes
  • 3.Chemseddine Ben Jemaa no
  • 4.Kitty Hundal yes
  • 5.Cédric Levieux yes
  • Elected alternate board members are: 1. Kitty Hundal and 2. Cédric Levieux.


Election of Court of Arbitration

  • Candidates:
Adam Wolf (PPDE)
Bastian Krone (PPDE)
Thomas Gaul (PPDE)
Markéta Gregorová (PPCZ)- no
Ohad Shem Tov (PPIL)
Marek Nečada (PPCZ)
Denis Simonet (PPCH)
Stefan Thöni (PPCH)
With 7 candidates, it is proposed that we allow all 7 to be members of the CoA. There are no other proposals. There are no objections to the 7 candidates. Therefore, we accept all 7 candidates. We will vote though on all candidates.

Do you accept these candidates to the Court of Arbitration?

1. :Adam Wolf (PPDE) 2. :Bastian Krone (PPDE) 3. :Thomas Gaul (PPDE) 4. :Ohad Shem Tov (PPIL) 5. :Marek Nečada (PPCZ) 6. :Denis Simonet (PPCHs) 7. :Stefan Thöni (PPCH)

  • Pirate Party Austria - Yes
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - Abstain
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 0
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - Yes
  • Parti Pirate France - Abstain
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - Yes
  • Pirate Party Israel - Yes
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - Abstain
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - Yes
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
  • Pirate Party Poland - 0
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - Yes
  • Pirate Party Russia - 0
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - Yes
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - Abstain
The vote is accepted with 9 votes of yes (8.5 tallied), 4 Abstain, and 0 Nos.
Congratulations to all 7 candidates who are now members of the Court of Arbitration.


Election of Lay Auditors

  • Candidates:
Pat Maechler (PPCH)
Ohad Bar Siman Tov (PPIL)
Marek Nečada -no
Ohad Shem Tov - no
  • Proposal that we vote on the two candidates and add a third Lay Auditor at a later date.

Initial list of candidates:

Pat Maechler
Ohad Bar Siman Tov
  • There is a motion to reopen the list of candidates.
  • PPFR nominates Nicolas Petitdemange

Final list of candidates:

Pat Maechler
Ohad Bar Siman Tov
Nicolas Petitdemange
  • We have three candidates for three positions. There was a proposal to skip the individual voting and vote on all three on each.
  • There is a motion to skip the discussion. Does anyone oppose? Motion carries.


  • Do you elect these Candidates as Lay Auditors?
  • Pirate Party Austria -Yes
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - Abs
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 0
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic -Yes
  • Parti Pirate France - Yes
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - Yes
  • Pirate Party Israel - Yes
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - Yes
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - Abstain
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - Yes
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - Yes
  • Pirate Party Poland - 0
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - Yes
  • Pirate Party Russia - 0
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - Yes
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - Yes
  • Voting closes with 11 Yes votes (10.5 tallied), 2 Abstains, and Zero Nos.

Schedule Changes

  • Point of order by the Netherlands to continue the agenda for day two at a later date
Does anyone object to dropping panel discussion and motions?
PPDE opposes to dropping the motions. They need to happen today.
No one objects to dropping the panel discussion, so it is officially dropped from the agenda.

Should we drop the motions from the agenda? Yes, drop the motions. No, don't drop the motions.

  • Pirate Party Austria -yes
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - abstain
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 0
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - yes
  • Parti Pirate France - yes
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - no
  • Pirate Party Israel - abstain
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - yes
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - yes
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - yes
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - yes
  • Pirate Party Poland - 0
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - abstain
  • Pirate Party Russia - 0
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - yes
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - abstain

There was a vote of 8 yes votes (7.5 tallies), 1 no, and 4 abstains.

There is a statement that we should not close the GA but continue online at a later point.
There is a counter argument that we should close the GA to confirm decisions made and hold an online GA within 90 days.
Does anyone oppose the counter motion?
Austria opposes the counter motion.
PPDE indicates that the proposal is non-sensical, as we have dropped the motions from the agenda.
There is an argument that the motions need to be in the GA and not speeches.
There are two options keeping the GA open today and continuing at a later date online?
PPDE opposes this.
Option 1: Don't end the GA today, continue with the "Motions" on the agenda at a later time;
Sub clausses; What time and place?
<Regarding Option 1 if we don't end the board meeting today, then when should we have the continuation?>

If we dont end the GA today, when shall it continue? Option 1. Saturday December 8, 10:00 AM CET Option 2. Sunday December 9 10:00 AM CET Option 3. Saturday 10 November 13:00 pm CET

  • Pirate Party Austria - 1,3
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - abstain
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - nothing
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - 2,3,
  • Parti Pirate France - 1
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - 2
  • Pirate Party Israel - 3
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - 2,3
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - 2
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - 1,3
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - 1,3
  • Pirate Party Poland - 0
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - abstain
  • Pirate Party Russia - 0
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - 1,2
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - abstain

Votes for 1: 4.5 Votes for 2: 5 Votes for 3: 5.5 abstain: 3

Option 3 carries.

Option 1: Don't end the GA today, continue Saturday 10 November 13:00 pm CET with the "Motions" on the agenda . Option 2: End the GA Today, task the Board with setting up another GA that will take place online.

  • Pirate Party Austria - 1
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil - abstain
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) - 0
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic - 1
  • Parti Pirate France - 1
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland - 1,2
  • Pirate Party Israel - 1
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg - 1
  • Pirate Party Netherlands - 1
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 vote) - 1
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) - 1
  • Pirate Party Poland - 0
  • Partido Pirata Portugues - abstain
  • Pirate Party Russia - 0
  • Pirate Party Switzerland - 2
  • Pirate Party Tunisia - 2
Votes for 1: 8.5
Votes fo 2: 3
Abstains: 2
Option 1 was selected with most votes "to not end the GA today and continue Saturday 10 November 13:00 pm CET with the "Motions" on the agenda ".

Nobody oposed selected option 1, so it is aproved:

We will not end the GA today. We will continue on Saturday 10 November 13:00 pm CET with the Motions.
  • Amended Agenda for Nov. 10, 2018:

0. Opening (6.11. 10:00) Opening speech (hosts of PP Bavaria) Formalities; chair, proxy, minutukeepers... delegates recognition quorum members and voting rights agenda approval 1. Keynote speech by Naomi Colvin - "Aaron's Law and Other Unfinished Business" (6.11. 11:45) Slites Noami 2. Organs Report 2.1. Board 2.2. Treasurer 2.3. Lay Auditors 2.4. Court of Arbitration 2.5. Tech Team 3. Speech by Markéta Gregorova - "Success in Czechia" (6.11. 14:15) Slites Markéta 4. Statutes Amendments 5. Elections of PPI officers (End of day one - 6.11. 18:45) (Reopening - 7.11. 9:00) [Continuation of Elections] 6. PPFR - Demo Congressus (7.11. 10:15) 7. Speech by Adam Wolf - " 'Cemetery Mediterranean Sea'; EU's responsibilities and opportunities" (7.11. 15.30) 8. Speech by Barrett Brown - "Pursuance" (7.11. 17:00) (End of day two - 7.11. 17:45) (Start of day three - 10. 11. 13:00) 9. Other motions


Speech by Adam Wolf - " 'Cemetery Mediterranean Sea'; EU's responsibilities and opportunities"

  • Prior to the speech thanks made by Chairperson Guillaume Saouli thanking outgoing board member Thomas Gaul for his service to the board.
Adam is a captain of rescue vessels around the world. He is a journalist and a sailor to help people from drowning and writing and talking about it.
There are certain routes that are deadly traps and hundreds die daily in floating coffins. Boats are often shipped in from China. Many must donate organs and undergo horrors. Many state if you bring me back, I would rather die.
Many political parties are voting to not prevent this.
Pirates need to work to make safe harbors. We mus share. Europe's future is Africa. We are neighbors, and there has to be integration. Europe cannot simply benefit from Africa's wealth without investing in local infrastructure. We produce refugees everyday.
We should get our own ship and name it after our NGO. He suggests fundraising to save these poor souls.
We are getting stronger and we are many. We should show our Pirate power and what it can bring.
At the UN we need to declare in a loud and public way that we are internationalists. We are not supporting the idea of national states. We need to unite and declare that everyone is the same. Everyone counts.
Civil rescue organizations were left with their own boats. They brought people ashore. The Maltese government did a mean trick and declared registration papers not valid to stop the boats. For a long time there was no possibility to save anyone. There are now two boats out there, and one more boat is on the way. They can only do so much. There is a requirement to save people and bring them ashore. You need to bring them in to a safe harbor, which is a place where people are not in danger of torture, death, etc. It is a legal definition. The Maltese violated these international treaties and said the boats were illegal.
What is your experience with Frontex? He has several experiences with Frontex forces, most of whom were quite hostile. It is supposed to be the doorstep protector of Europe. It is a force to prevent people from coming to Europe.
How do you argue with those who state NGOs (you) are engaged in human trafficking? Rescuing people is a basic human law, and it is included in treaties. If you see a car accident and don't stop it is a crime. The same thing happens in the sea. Someone is in a state of emergency. Perhaps they fell from a cruiseliner. It doesn't matter why they are in this human situation. You don't ask someone who has been in a car accident how they got there. You bring them to an ambulance.

Speech by Adam Wolf - " 'Cemetery Mediterranean Sea'; EU's responsibilities and opportunities"

  • Prior to the speech thanks made by Chairperson Guillaume Saouli thanking outgoing board member Thomas Gaul for his service to the board.
Adam is a captain of rescue vessels around the world. He is a journalist and a sailor to help people from drowning and writing and talking about it.
There are certain routes that are deadly traps and hundreds die daily in floating coffins. Boats are often shipped in from China. Many must donate organs and undergo horrors. Many state if you bring me back, I would rather die.
Many political parties are voting to not prevent this.
Pirates need to work to make safe harbors. We mus share. Europe's future is Africa. We are neighbors, and there has to be integration. Europe cannot simply benefit from Africa's wealth without investing in local infrastructure. We produce refugees everyday.
We should get our own ship and name it after our NGO. He suggests fundraising to save these poor souls.
We are getting stronger and we are many. We should show our Pirate power and what it can bring.
At the UN we need to declare in a loud and public way that we are internationalists. We are not supporting the idea of national states. We need to unite and declare that everyone is the same. Everyone counts.
Civil rescue organizations were left with their own boats. They brought people ashore. The Maltese government did a mean trick and declared registration papers not valid to stop the boats. For a long time there was no possibility to save anyone. There are now two boats out there, and one more boat is on the way. They can only do so much. There is a requirement to save people and bring them ashore. You need to bring them in to a safe harbor, which is a place where people are not in danger of torture, death, etc. It is a legal definition. The Maltese violated these international treaties and said the boats were illegal.
What is your experience with Frontex? He has several experiences with Frontex forces, most of whom were quite hostile. It is supposed to be the doorstep protector of Europe. It is a force to prevent people from coming to Europe.
How do you argue with those who state NGOs (you) are engaged in human trafficking? Rescuing people is a basic human law, and it is included in treaties. If you see a car accident and don't stop it is a crime. The same thing happens in the sea. Someone is in a state of emergency. Perhaps they fell from a cruiseliner. It doesn't matter why they are in this human situation. You don't ask someone who has been in a car accident how they got there. You bring them to an ambulance.

Speech by Barret Brown about Pursuance Project https://pursuanceproject.org/

Democracy has had to be institutional. There were no other options. Given the trends in the West in our lifetimes, democracy from here on will have to be less institutional. It will be global in character, proceedural. Defined by association, to associate and not associate as one chooses. One can in the modern day, the unique modern day, we can reach out to others wherever they are to find out about our common interests and actually build structures and networks to bring our values into the mainstream and establish them. We have scattered around the planet, havens for liberty, where you are safe from censorship and more. We cannot guarantee that this will continue. Americans are learning this. Establishing these democracies does not mean that they will exist forever. All of these structures are only as strong as the citizens who are holding them up. There is no reason we shouldn't expect that the liberal democracy should exist with a sane structure. Seams are showing and they are obvious that even those in the establishment know that they are broken. Fascists and alt-right have succeeded incredibly such that they have reached the White House. They remind us what the internet can do. The alt right comes from 4 chan, which also gave rise to a left wing movement known as Anonymous. This group started as a trolling group and should not have necessarily turned into an activist group. It became a very exact network, which reached the Arab Spring in Tunisia and serious events. It burned out after its early success. Today it is nothing more than some FB pages. There was nothing holding it up. It had agility, which was a strength, but it had no charter. It disappeared. We engaged in crowdsourcing. We know from 2011-2 the investigations into hidden sectors, that these things are vital. They come about by accident some times, and they disappear. We wondered could we create something that it could maintain strength, incorporate people at an exponential rate.
Whoever solves this problem will be dominant and have the lead. It is important that we do this, because we have a short amount of time. We are not the only ones talking about creating viable, expanding internet activities. Pursuance is an organization based in the US that I founded. We have a number of interesting people involved. Birgitta Johnsdotter, Naomi Colvin, John Keriack? who named the CIA secret torture program and went to jail, academics, prominent lawyer Jay Lederman, Raymond Johansen, and a great core team. Most of the people are working for free. We recently raised about 40000 dollars through Kickstarter. Everyone who opposes the drug war, the police state, they may disagree on a number of other issues, but they collaborate to decide on how the movement can get back on its feat. Pursuance will be a visualized room for civic engagement. You will have a piece of software, once you are accepted into the system. It is an open source system.
The strength of this process is the ability for people with shared ideas all to join a shared sector and slowly start building these networks that will allow us to move forward. We have had 25 applicants. Of these most will get in. They will respond in a paragraph answer, and accepted unless they write something obscure. This number will expand, as each will bring in new people, and it will thus expand exponentially.
Let's discuss Redit. These were early adapaters in 2006, a subset of people. They were relatively well informed and with good technical knowledge. They are a demographic that is more suited than a random sample. This becomes one of the greatest sources of information. People are commenting and vetting things in real time. It allows the most useful comments to float to the top. Over time the criteria for joining changes, and the population changes. The later users change. The barriers decrease to include more people from around the world. I considered how can we create something that has the same values but allows it to bring in more people over time. How can we do this without worrying about what will happen in five years time. There are a number of answers. One is that we hand selected the first users. We can expect that the people that they bring on will have high values. Even if that doesn't happen, if we succumb to the realities of mass mobilization, with suddenly alt-right and deranged, that is not a problem for Pursuance. You are not encumbered by the totality of whose there.
In an amorphous grouping of people you can't make value judgments in a way to prevent such people from coming in. Instead you have operators who are keeping the thing from becoming a cesspool. It is a more threatening danger. It is a problem. In the 1960s the civil rights movements came together, the way they came together is the reason that they fell down. A great deal of Pursuance, besides the process democracy, is reducing these problems. Freedom of association allows individuals to build their own structures, decide how this organization will govern and grow. It eliminates who has power and why. All of these elements have influence. Will it be a pseudo democracy? What will they vote on? All of these things are left to the management. No one is ever part of something that they don't entirely understand. The facility and access to create their own institutions, make them more democratic.
Since this is not being applied to anyone, there is no question of power or authority. The power is entirely with the individual user. You have over time Pursuances that are finding their way forward, figuring out how to facilitate when internet is cut off, whatever the issue is, environmental regulation, etc. People will have the opportunity to experiment and grow. Each of these individual Pursuances on their own, that would be good enough. The great thing about this would be your group would be able to work in other groups. Because of these barriers, these things don't happen. Imagine if every activist group knew what every other activist group was doing. They could collaborate, maintain independence. It would be a different world. Pursuance will be that structure if you are starting a campaign or a political organization. You can develop this collaboration in hours rather than months.
The founder of the Pirate Party once said something interesting, Rich Falvinge. Your problem is not that you don't have people, it's that people want to work for you for free, but you won't let them. The people haven't been brought in. The people have to be allowed to find others. We have to have all of these brick and morter groups in the same place. We need institutions and procedures all asking a universal space to go their own way, but to facilitate what we have done. :Historically we could not be having this conversation. I could not be here in the US on probation and unable to leave and still be able to address foreign members of a political party. It's obvious that Twitter and many of these things did not exist. Obvious things can be overlooked, once we get comfortable with them. We risk losing sight of what it really is. You loose your ability. For the most part human history was largely the same. The people you are collaborating with... The French long ago if they had telepathic abilities to communicate with the other side of the world, it would have changed the world. The fact that geography is no longer a limiting factor, that is the largest thing to change society. We will only later realize how much change. There is a lag between technology and people who use it. In 2018 it is time for people in the Pirate society to take the next step and help us get the Pursuance project established around the world.
Institutional democracy is not going anywhere, but it is not the future. Democracy that matters over time was created for us without our consent. Proceedural democracy over time as we bring in more people, who didn't look into the problem, as we expand our base of support... that will become more powerful. I'm talking about real power to prevent these criminal agencies that currently control most of the globe, that will keep them more in check. This is an age where the not so greats are coming together. It is hard to consider how nation states can be held to account. It is hard to imagine. Pursuance is about to update its website with more information. Anyone who has any questions, please contact me at barretbrown@protonmail.com barretbrown@pursuanceproject.net
Question about when it will be ready. Answer is I'm not sure, because we won't release until we are absolutely ready. It should be done next year.
Question about is there a way to get back the internet. Answer is that we need to use the infrastructure.
Our core team over time will still be bringing in individuals over time, but the vast number will be other individuals who bring in others. Over time though our agency diminishes.

To Be Continued on Nov. 10, 2018 at 10:00

Motions, Amendments

(For now there are four motions in Discourse :

  • 6.1 Special Comittee for the revision of Statutes ===

https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/special-commission-for-the-revision-of-the-statutes/84 Name of the motion : Special Commiittee for the revision of Statutes (presented by the PPFR)

Presentation of the motion : The purpose of this motion is to set up a special committee whose mission is to propose a global and coherent revision of the statutes and rules of procedure. Currently, the link between the Board and the members is not perfect and it is necessary to create a more dynamic relationship. In addition, yesterday’s failed motions proved that if motions are not prepared collectively, they are more likely to fail when a large majority is required.

Body of the motion : A. The GA requires the creation of a special committee to propose at the general meeting of 2019 an overall revision of the statutes and rules of procedure. B. This commission will be composed of the delegates of the voluntary members to take part in this revision, of the members of the Board mandated for this purpose. It will be chaired by the President of the PPI or a person elected by the Board. This person may or may not be a member of the Board. C. The Board must establish the composition of the commission before March 31, 2019 and convene the first meeting before April 30, 2019. D. At its first meeting, the committee will define its rules of procedure and a timetable for its work, which must be approved by an absolute majority of its members.

*6.2 New vote tool : Congressus

PPFR proposes the use of Congressus for the management of meetings and votes within PPI.

Body of the motion : A. The GA asks to the Board to install Congressus as the new application for the management of meetings and votes. B. This installation must be effective in order to use Congressus for the 2019 GA. C. The GA asks the board to prepare a revision of the GA Rules of Procedures in order to adapt them to the use of Congressus. Support : PPFR

Discussion
Votes
  • Pirate Party Austria -
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil -
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic -
  • Parti Pirate France -
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland -
  • Pirate Party Israel -
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg -
  • Pirate Party Netherlands -
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) -
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) -
  • Pirate Party Poland -
  • Partido Pirata Portugues -
  • Pirate Party Russia -
  • Pirate Party Switzerland -
  • Pirate Party Tunisia -

6.3 New vote tool : Congressus

Name of the motion : New vote tool : Congressus (presented by PPFR)

Presentation of the motion : This motion is to ask the Board to set up Congressus for the management of meetings and votes within the PPI.

Body of the motion : The GA adopts this resolution : A. The GA asks to the Board to install Congressus as the new application for the management of meetings and votes. B. This installation must be effective in order to use Congressus for the 2019 GA. C. The GA asks the board to prepare a revision of the GA Rules of Procedures in order to adapt them to the use of Congressus.

Discussion
Votes
  • Pirate Party Austria -
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil -
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic -
  • Parti Pirate France -
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland -
  • Pirate Party Israel -
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg -
  • Pirate Party Netherlands -
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) -
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) -
  • Pirate Party Poland -
  • Partido Pirata Portugues -
  • Pirate Party Russia -
  • Pirate Party Switzerland -
  • Pirate Party Tunisia -

6.4 Financial proposal

   - https://ppi.savvy.ch/t/financial-proposal/76

Presentation of the motion : Get rid of the 20% rule for affiliation fees (Presented by the PPDE)

Body of the motion : ‘‘Amend:’’ Rules for Affiliation fees Calculation were adopted at the online General Assembly meeting on march 2015Decisons_of_GA#online_General_Assembly_march_2015: Calculation of Affiliation Fees: The actual HDI [1] of a country is taken as an exponent to 50 to get the basis fee in €. This basis fee is multiplied by following factors: for each elected pirate on national level times two, for each elected member of a regional parliament times 1/5, and for each elected member on a local level times 1/10. These multiplied values are then added to the basis fee.

For the calculation it is non-discriminatory if a pirate is holding a mandate in the executive or legislative branch.Affiliation fee shall not excess 1% of the member’s annual income for the previous financial year.Observer membership is not associated with any costs. No member shall contribute more then 20% of all PPI’s due fees. The first fees are due the next financial year[2016]. This calculation of Affiliation Fees is valid for following years unless decided otherwise.

‘‘to’’

Rules for Affiliation fees Calculation were adopted at the online General Assembly meeting on march 2015Decisons_of_GA#online_General_Assembly_march_2015: Calculation of Affiliation Fees: The actual HDI[1] of a country is taken as an exponent to 50 to get the basis fee in €. This basis fee is multiplied by following factors: for each elected pirate on national level times two, for each elected member of a regional parliament times 1/5, and for each elected member on a local level times 1/10. These multiplied values are then added to the basis fee.

For the calculation it is non-discriminatory if a pirate is holding a mandate in the executive or legislative branch. Affiliation fee shall not excess 1% of the member’s annual income for the previous financial year. Observer membership is not associated with any costs. The first fees are due the next financial year [2016]. This calculation of Affiliation Fees is valid for following years unless decided otherwise. This rule applies ex tunc from 01.01.2018.

Discussion
Votes
  • Pirate Party Austria -
  • Partido Pirata do Brasil -
  • Pirates de Catalunya (1/2 vote) -
  • Pirate Party Czech Republic -
  • Parti Pirate France -
  • Piratenpartei Deutschland -
  • Pirate Party Israel -
  • Pirate Party Luxembourg -
  • Pirate Party Netherlands -
  • Internet Party of New Zealand (1/2 Vote) -
  • Piratpartiet (Norway) -
  • Pirate Party Poland -
  • Partido Pirata Portugues -
  • Pirate Party Russia -
  • Pirate Party Switzerland -
  • Pirate Party Tunisia -



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